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Question:  If the phone is off, and someone sends a text message to you, is there a way to fix the time stamp so that it shows when the text was sent to you rather than showing it was received when the phone is powered on?  My old phone used to show the time it was sent to me, but these smartphones give it a received time of when you turn on the phone.  Always been a nuisance to me.  Have no way of knowing if it was sent several hours ago, or just a few mins ago.

1/9 2:54 PM | IP: Logged Why turn the phone off?

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Originally posted by TennNole17:
Why turn the phone off?

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I'd guess on planes, trips, or entering buildings/facilities where it's required.  Or times when you're out of service.

1/9 4:26 PM | IP: Logged

Fun stuff, Lumia 920 vs baseball 

1/17 2:19 PM | IP: Logged

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Originally posted by Bartdog:
Fun stuff, Lumia 920 vs baseball 

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Nice. 

I wish Nokia would make an Android phone.  They need to stop the hemoraging with WP and diversify like Samsung and others have done.

1/17 2:27 PM | IP: Logged

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Originally posted by dmm5157:

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Originally posted by Bartdog:
Fun stuff, Lumia 920 vs baseball 

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Nice. 

I wish Nokia would make an Android phone.  They need to stop the hemorrhaging with WP and diversify like Samsung and others have done.

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?? They're not hemorrhaging. 

Nokia Oyj (NOK1V)
jumped as much as 18 percent in Helsinki trading after a surprise
fourth-quarter earnings recovery signaled Chief Executive Officer
Stephen Elop's plan to revive the Finnish handset maker is gaining pace.

. . .

The return to profit in phonemaking is among the first concrete signs
that new devices and asset sales are helping Espoo, Finland-based Nokia
rebound. Nokia has accumulated about 4.8 billion euros ($6.3 billion)
in net losses since Elop started his bet in early 2011 on smartphones using Microsoft Corp. (MSFT)'s Windows software.

1/18 9:46 AM | IP: Logged

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Originally posted by Bartdog:

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Originally posted by dmm5157:

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Originally posted by Bartdog:
Fun stuff, Lumia 920 vs baseball 

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Nice. 

I wish Nokia would make an Android phone.  They need to stop the hemorrhaging with WP and diversify like Samsung and others have done.

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?? They're not hemorrhaging. 

Nokia Oyj (NOK1V)
jumped as much as 18 percent in Helsinki trading after a surprise
fourth-quarter earnings recovery signaled Chief Executive Officer
Stephen Elop's plan to revive the Finnish handset maker is gaining pace.

. . .

The return to profit in phonemaking is among the first concrete signs
that new devices and asset sales are helping Espoo, Finland-based Nokia
rebound. Nokia has accumulated about 4.8 billion euros ($6.3 billion)
in net losses since Elop started his bet in early 2011 on smartphones using Microsoft Corp. (MSFT)'s Windows software.

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And how are they doing in market share in the US?  They do fine and dandy on their home turf, but looking at Nokia on the NYSE for their 5 yr trend and they are WAY down.


Nokie was the king of the hill for many years and even when the iPhone was picking up steam, many overseas still preferred Nokia to the new fangled iOS and Android devices.

Windows Phone is holding Nokia back, at least in the US.  Nokia is about to cut around 10,000 jobs globally, so their stocks are probably due for a slight dip.  http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2013/01/17/tech-stocks-thursday-intel-nokia/1841839/


I don't really care about earnings, stock prices, etc.  I do care about market share, operating systems, and availability on carriers.  Nokia is taking a very calculated risk by aligning with Microsoft.  Maybe they don't want to bite the hand that feeds by spreading to both WP and Android.  I do know that Elop has opened his big mouth and said a lot of negative things about Android that has pissed off a lot of Android fans.  I'd personally like to see him swallow his pride, eat his words and adopt Android as a sidekick to their WP devices.  HTC and Samsung are doing this, no need to stay OS exclusive.  My main point being imagine how well they would be doing if they made their impressive mobile devices available on Android.  They would be a huge player again Globally to take on Samsung and Apple.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/1113171-is-nokia-back 

The juicy part:

If achieved, this performance would be a sharp improvement above the prior quarter, when Nokia only sold 2.9 million Lumia phones. Technology pundits now highlight the Lumia - Windows platform as a viable third option beneath the Apple iOS - Google Android duopoly.

At $4.60, Nokia shares effectively trade as a call option. Nokia executives will employ financial engineering strategies to float the note and prop up shareholder value, until real market penetration with Windows phones can be sustained. Nokia's latest settlement award from Research in Motion proves that this company can extract value from its patent portfolio.

In Nokia's latest quarterly report for period ended September 30, the company claimed $7.6 billion in goodwill and other intangible assets. In addition to this intellectual property, the Nokia balance sheet also includes $11.1 billion in cash and securities above $21 billion worth of liabilities. To date, Nokia executives have managed cash flow effectively through sweeping layoffs, debt refinancing, and the consolidation of real estate. Over the next year, Nokia can save another $1 billion, if it were to eliminate its dividend.

On the income statement, Nokia's losses are primarily the result of a collapse in smartphone sales. Before its most recent positive Lumia announcement, Nokia was reporting a 56% decline in year-over-year smart devices net sales. For now, aggressive investors must be willing to take a gamble that the Nokia Windows phone will outlast the Blackberry 10, while also staving off the inevitable release of the Apple iPhone 6.

1/18 10:10 AM | IP: Logged

sorry, you were the one that said "hemorrhaging"  which speaks directly to income, stock prices and other stuff you don't care about, but then proceeded to paste in mass quantities. 

Nokia has a low share in the US, but they are going to own the emerging nations as inexpensive handsets are replaced with smartphones.  I see stories every day about a new lower priced lumia (ex: 610) being picked up by a carrier in China, India, etc.  It's only a matter of time. 

As for the MS/Nokia partnership, problems with Luma phones have been mostly hardware not OS software.  If anything I think Nokia is holding WP back instead of the other way around.  aside: I've been waiting 4 months for a Samsung ATIV S, announced in late August, but apparently never coming.     One story I read about that speculated that the carriers don't want Samsung to become too dominant, having leading handsets on multiple OS's. 

1/18 10:55 AM | IP: Logged

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Originally posted by Bartdog:
sorry, you were the one that said "hemorrhaging"  which speaks directly to income, stock prices and other stuff you don't care about, but then proceeded to paste in mass quantities. 

Nokia has a low share in the US, but they are going to own the emerging nations as inexpensive handsets are replaced with smartphones.  I see stories every day about a new lower priced lumia (ex: 610) being picked up by a carrier in China, India, etc.  It's only a matter of time. 

As for the MS/Nokia partnership, problems with Luma phones have been mostly hardware not OS software.  If anything I think Nokia is holding WP back instead of the other way around.  aside: I've been waiting 4 months for a Samsung ATIV S, announced in late August, but apparently never coming.     One story I read about that speculated that the carriers don't want Samsung to become too dominant, having leading handsets on multiple OS's. 

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You can homorrage anything, including market share.  It's just a matter of perspective.  Most tend to think financially, but again, that isn't my main concern.  How much money the company makes doesn't concern me, beyond limitations in R&D and the quality of their products.

Carriers are a huge headache in the US.  The rest of the world is way ahead of us in that respect.  Other than AT&T, they handcuff every other vendor.  I hope there's some truth to the rumors that Google is looking to create their own mobile service in the future to circumvent the mobile limitations we have stateside.

1/18 11:13 AM | IP: Logged

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Originally posted by CC0492:

Question:  If the phone is off, and someone sends a text message to you, is there a way to fix the time stamp so that it shows when the text was sent to you rather than showing it was received when the phone is powered on?  My old phone used to show the time it was sent to me, but these smartphones give it a received time of when you turn on the phone.  Always been a nuisance to me.  Have no way of knowing if it was sent several hours ago, or just a few mins ago.

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I use GoSMS and when I press and hold on a message, it tells me when it was received and sent.  I just tested it. Powered off my phone, then sent a text to myself via computer.  Waited 5 minutes then turned the phone back on.  time stamp received said 3:05, but Time Sent said 2:59, which is the time I sent it.

Kind of a pain, but the information is embedded in the text message itself.

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Originally posted by seminoledq: I have Sprint and have had a BB Curve for years now. All else being equal I'd probably prefer whichever is smaller and lighter. My wife and daughter both have Evo's and those things are damn heavy. DQ The Samsung Galaxy is extremely lightweight and has the large screen. I played around with one at the Sprint store and it's amazing how light they are. The Super Amoled display ain't too shabby either. 3/9 1:32 PM | IP: Logged

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