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Link: Click Me6/23 11:10 AM | IP: Logged
I am curious about rooting my S3 when I get it. Is it really that much of a risk? I'm somewhat tech literate but far from an expert. My main reasons would be to:

A) rid the phone of bloat ware
B) speed it up
C) maybe some customization

I'm a little nervous about bricking my phone and/or voiding the warranty. Im curious what you think
6/24 12:55 PM | IP: Logged

Originally posted by dnole101:
I am curious about rooting my S3 when I get it. Is it really that much of a risk? I'm somewhat tech literate but far from an expert. My main reasons would be to:

A) rid the phone of bloat ware
B) speed it up
C) maybe some customization

I'm a little nervous about bricking my phone and/or voiding the warranty. Im curious what you think
You should always exercise caution when you do anything like this to your electronic devices.  You should always do your homework on the risks and methods for tinkering with your devices.

With that said, if you take great care and do your homework, rooting your device isn't particularly difficult to do and opens up a lot of opportunities.  In reality, some of the things you are able to do should be doable without Root, but our carriers want to lock down our devices and force bloat wear on us.

1.  Getting rid of bloat ware is one of the main reasons I love rooting.  You don't even have to uninstall the bloatware, you can just download a program like Titanium Backup (free) and use the FREEZE option to disable those apps and it will automatically remove them from your app drawer.  This is a safer method than just uninstalling the apps just in case you remove an app that shouldn't be removed.  If that occurs when you use FREEZE, you can just DEFROST (reactivate) the app and it's back to the way it was originally.

2.  Usually speeding up the phone is done with custom kernels or ROM's.  While this is certainly doable, this depends on developers and is the riskiest part of rooting your device.  If you flash the wrong kernels or ROM's, you could brick your phone.  The good thing is Samsung has Download mode, which means it's easy to recover your device should that happen.

3.  Customization is definitely doable.  You don't need ROOT, but with ROOT, you can remap your buttons, flash custom ROM's with new added functionality, and also likely give you access to newer versions of Android sooner than you would usually get it.


Read up on your Carrier-specific GS3 Android Development forums on XDA Forums for more info about all the above:

AT&T Galaxy S3 Forums:  http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1629
Sprint Galaxy S3 Forums:  http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1635
T-Mobile Galaxy S3 Forums:  http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1641
International Galaxy S3 Forums:  http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1563
6/24 1:44 PM | IP: Logged

Originally posted by dmm5157:

Originally posted by dnole101:
I am curious about rooting my S3 when I get it. Is it really that much of a risk? I'm somewhat tech literate but far from an expert. My main reasons would be to:

A) rid the phone of bloat ware
B) speed it up
C) maybe some customization

I'm a little nervous about bricking my phone and/or voiding the warranty. Im curious what you think
You should always exercise caution when you do anything like this to your electronic devices.  You should always do your homework on the risks and methods for tinkering with your devices.

With that said, if you take great care and do your homework, rooting your device isn't particularly difficult to do and opens up a lot of opportunities.  In reality, some of the things you are able to do should be doable without Root, but our carriers want to lock down our devices and force bloat wear on us.

1.  Getting rid of bloat ware is one of the main reasons I love rooting.  You don't even have to uninstall the bloatware, you can just download a program like Titanium Backup (free) and use the FREEZE option to disable those apps and it will automatically remove them from your app drawer.  This is a safer method than just uninstalling the apps just in case you remove an app that shouldn't be removed.  If that occurs when you use FREEZE, you can just DEFROST (reactivate) the app and it's back to the way it was originally.

2.  Usually speeding up the phone is done with custom kernels or ROM's.  While this is certainly doable, this depends on developers and is the riskiest part of rooting your device.  If you flash the wrong kernels or ROM's, you could brick your phone.  The good thing is Samsung has Download mode, which means it's easy to recover your device should that happen.

3.  Customization is definitely doable.  You don't need ROOT, but with ROOT, you can remap your buttons, flash custom ROM's with new added functionality, and also likely give you access to newer versions of Android sooner than you would usually get it.


Read up on your Carrier-specific GS3 Android Development forums on XDA Forums for more info about all the above:

AT&T Galaxy S3 Forums:  http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1629
Sprint Galaxy S3 Forums:  http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1635
T-Mobile Galaxy S3 Forums:  http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1641
International Galaxy S3 Forums:  http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1563
So you are saying that I can get close to what I want for #1 and #3 without rooting?  I'm assuming that the S3 will also run much faster than my Droid X (which I recently dropped in the toilet) that ran on 3G.  Thanks again
6/24 7:21 PM | IP: Logged

Originally posted by dnole101:
 So you are saying that I can get close to what I want for #1 and #3 without rooting?  I'm assuming that the S3 will also run much faster than my Droid X (which I recently dropped in the toilet) that ran on 3G.  Thanks again
You can definitely get #3 without rooting.  For #1, Using Titanium Back-up or a similar program requires root access.  It's not rooting that's the dangerous part, at least with the GS3 (little different story with the One X if you aren't careful).  Flashing custom kernels and ROM's is the dangerous part.

I rooted my One X in about 5 minutes, including the time it took to download the files and read through the instructions a few times.  Took me another 5 to unlock the boot loader (GS3 has an unlocked boot loader, IIRC).  Phones with locked boot loaders (most Motorolas and HTC's) are where the problems can arise quickly.

I'm not sure there's a one-click Root option yet for the GS3, but if there isn't now there will be one very soon.  Rooting the phone doesn't really change anything about the device, it's just like giving yourself full administrative rights over your device. 

Having the phone locked (stock settings) means malware and other malicious apps can't get access to the root directory of your phone.  That's where SuperUser Permissions (a stock program when you root your phone) becomes important.  It will create a firewall that prompts you if an app is requesting root access permission.  As long as you are careful, it's pretty safe.
6/24 8:10 PM | IP: Logged

What would you recommend for text messages on the One X?  Are you getting notifications, including Lock Screen pop-ups that turn on the lock screen?

6/25 11:47 AM | IP: Logged

I'm using Handcent.  I always have, I really like the interface and notification options.  If you use it, you will need to go into your stock Messenger app, go to settings and turn off notifications there, otherwise you'll get duplicate alerts (one from the stock messenger app and one from Handcent).



You can change the lockscreen settings to show different things, such as all your alerts (emails, messages, calendar items, etc), or contacts, weather, etc.  These options are under SETTINGS->PERSONALIZE.



My screen turns on when I get notifications. 

6/25 12:06 PM | IP: Logged
Gracias
6/25 2:09 PM | IP: Logged
Just got the HTC EVO 4g LTE and all I can say is WOW.  this is an awesome piece of hardware.  I have had the original Evo for the last couple of years and it totally rocked.  Never had an issue with it whether rooted or unrooted.  Even figured out how to get the battery life to last 10 hours +.  

That said, this new handset is better in every way. . . by a lot. the design is very modern and sleek--better than the plasticky look on the OE.  it is much lighter, the screen is absolutely gorgeous.  my buddy has the new GS3 and i thought that the Evo4gL won the side by side pepsi challenge on the screens.  the UI is smooth and seems to never even hesitate.  the apps are more refined and more functional.  (For example, the stock music player uses gracenote to update all of your album art automatically and brings up Beats Audio when it detects the headphones.  Another example, Shazam is great, brings up real time lyrics Karaoke-style as you're listening to the song that you're tagging.  my BeyondPod podcast app has also been updated and is exceptional.) 


incidentally, i was able to transfer some stuff like my contact list from my other phone via bluetooth using the "transfer".  this saved me loads of time at best buy (who offered to do it for me, but i didn't have the patience for those clowns).  


mail works exceptionally well.  Yahoo, Gmail, and my work email go through the same mail app and i can sort them by color.  


the camera is all that is advertised.  not only the photo quality, but how quickly you can get the camera up.  the dedicated button is genius and burst mode is epic (especially for somebody who has the worst photographic shutter timing like i do).  so far, i've only taken indoor photos but they've been good pix.  


my WIFI router is all the way on the other side of the house downstairs and the WIFI signal on this phone is much stronger than on the OE.  


voice recognition is much improved too.  the talk to text, talk to google, and talk assistance works amazingly well.  the fake siri girl sets my alarm faster than i can and she looks up the rays scores for me and i don't even have to tell her twice. not sure if this is a standard app or what, it's something my son put on there for me. 


i'll post more stuff after i've had the chance to play with it some more.   



6/28 9:16 AM | IP: Logged

@Clownsrule:



Very nice to hear.  My boss got one a few weeks ago and comes over to show me new stuff he's found or new apps he's now able to use  that help for work.  The built-in office app (Polaris) is the first office app (paid or free) that will run some of our structural design worksheets in Excel. 



I'm on week 2 with my HTC One X and I'm going to find it very difficult to switch over to the GS3.  The more I become comfortable with it, the more I like this device.  Battery life has been stellar as well, much better than advertised. 



Glad I get a few more weeks before I have to make the decision.

6/28 9:46 AM | IP: Logged
forgot to post about battery life.  i turned on yesterday at 8:15 in the morning and at 9:30 pm, i still had charge left (don't have a little numerical indicator installed, but the color indicator was still yellow.  

this during heavy usage while i downloaded an assload of apps, used gps nav to get to the hey jew bris, played music all day, installed and uninstalled widgets, etc.  


totally satisfied with that battery life as this is not typical usage.  




also, as far as bidness apps.  i will be testing Polaris as well as QuickOffice Pro to see what works better.  


I have Splashtop and Pocket Cloud.  Will see which one of those works better.  


Will test Webex and Skype to see how those operate .


Also, i run MicroStrategy reports from the road occasionally.  i have the app on my ipad and i wonder how it'll perform on this thing.  

6/28 10:18 AM | IP: Logged

The New Evo is very tempting. It makes me want to stay with Sprint. I almost signed up for 2 more years when I saw it on sale at Amazon for $50 plus $36 activation fee. The I saw it was for new customers only. Guess I'll wait for Galaxy SIII on Verizon. It will cost me $25 more a month for 4 lines on their share data plan that came out today.

6/28 10:16 PM | IP: Logged

Has anyone had a chance to run Jelly Bean yet? I want to give it a few more weeks before I flash it to my GNex
6/29 2:06 PM | IP: Logged



Originally posted by n4dog:

Has anyone had a chance to run Jelly Bean yet? I want to give it a few more weeks before I flash it to my GNex


I'm not quite in a big rush yet to get it, although I have a One X and there is a ported version on XDA.  Maybe I'll do it after work and give it a whirl if I have some time.  Nice thing is I can back up my current setup, flash the new ROM, then restore my previous setup and go back as if nothing happened.  One of my favorite things about being rooted and having an unlocked boot loader.
6/29 2:37 PM | IP: Logged
Yeah I know. That is why I like being rooted  
6/29 2:48 PM | IP: Logged

Great, now I'm curious.  I'm downloading the ROM now, going to give it a shot for the rest of the day.  The download is almost done, so I'll give my impressions, with the caveat that this is not an offical Android 4.1 experience as it's not officially for my phone's hardware.
6/29 2:54 PM | IP: Logged

I think I might try it on my vacation in a week or so

6/29 3:29 PM | IP: Logged
Wife just to upgraded to an iPhone 4s. I really like it. I've got a DROIDx2, until this time next year. Ill probably get the iPhone 5 when I upgrade.

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7/3 4:01 PM | IP: Logged

I decided to run Droid Junk ROM on my GNex for a few weeks and see how I like it. I am not sold on the Jelly Bean ROM yet. I do like some of the things about it though.
7/5 11:40 AM | IP: Logged
Which phone is better?

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7/5 12:00 PM | IP: Logged
please review the pinned thread at the top of this page...should provide answers that you seek 
7/5 12:01 PM | IP: Logged
Time for me to upgrade my original Motorola Droid (yes, the first one). Still trying to figure out if I should get the Samsung GS3 or try to hold out for the iPhone 5. Thoughts? SIAP.
7/5 12:05 PM | IP: Logged I'd wait three more months for the iPhone 5.

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Posted on 7/5 1:40 PM | IP: Logged




Originally posted by UnconqueredNole10:
I'd wait three more months for the iPhone 5.

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We'll see what the next iPhone will bring.  People thought they'd release the iPhone 5 last year, and many (most?) were disappointed in the incremental upgrade.  I'd keep expectations down and hope for the best.



The new iPhone will almost certainly have 4G LTE and a new smaller connector similar to micro USB, but beyond that the rumors are exactly the same as they were last year:  Bigger screen, redesigned exterior, beefier processor.


7/5 2:57 PM | IP: Logged


Originally posted by dmm5157:



Originally posted by UnconqueredNole10:
I'd wait three more months for the iPhone 5.

Posted from wireless.rivals.com





We'll see what the next iPhone will bring.  People thought they'd release the iPhone 5 last year, and many (most?) were disappointed in the incremental upgrade.  I'd keep expectations down and hope for the best.


The new iPhone will almost certainly have 4G LTE and a new smaller connector similar to micro USB, but beyond that the rumors are exactly the same as they were last year:  Bigger screen, redesigned exterior, beefier processor.



All things equal, I would prefer to get the Samsung over the iPhone. Are there any more Droids to look out for in the same time frame as the release of the iPhone?
7/5 3:03 PM | IP: Logged



Originally posted by nynole1:

All things equal, I would prefer to get the Samsung over the iPhone. Are there any more Droids to look out for in the same time frame as the release of the iPhone?


Things move fast in the Android world.  Yes, there will be other big releases to go head to head with Apple later this year.  I'd guess more Quadcore devices, bigger batteries, and HD displays, along with 4G LTE will all be staples.  It then comes down to aesthetics, manufactuer, and carrier preferences. 
7/5 3:21 PM | IP: Logged

Originally posted by dmm5157:

Great, now I'm curious.  I'm downloading the ROM now, going to give it a shot for the rest of the day.  The download is almost done, so I'll give my impressions, with the caveat that this is not an offical Android 4.1 experience as it's not officially for my phone's hardware.
yeah, I heard google is going to tick some people off, too.  seems to be going around. 

I thought it was cool that in this review of Jelly Bean, I see at least two references to things inspired or first done by WP7.
7/5 3:44 PM | IP: Logged





Originally posted by Bartdog:




Originally posted by dmm5157:

Great, now I'm curious.  I'm downloading the ROM now, going to give it a shot for the rest of the day.  The download is almost done, so I'll give my impressions, with the caveat that this is not an offical Android 4.1 experience as it's not officially for my phone's hardware.


yeah, I heard google is going to tick some people off, too.  seems to be going around. 

I thought it was cool that in this review of Jelly Bean, I see at least two references to things inspired or first done by WP7.



I'm not overly excited about switching to JB, other than for hardware acceleration and improved performance.  Beyond that, the rest doesn't really affect me one way or the other.



Considering the latest round of lawsuits from Apple against the Galaxy Nexus (and really Jellybean) look like Google is being forced to gimp their own universal search technology (makes no sense to me).



My feelings towards Apple are shifting from indifference to hate, at least from a business standpoint mainly because they don't license their patents, they just outright try to block and eliminate competition and stifle innovation.

7/5 3:50 PM | IP: Logged



Originally posted by dmm5157:

Great, now I'm curious.  I'm downloading the ROM now, going to give it a shot for the rest of the day.  The download is almost done, so I'll give my impressions, with the caveat that this is not an offical Android 4.1 experience as it's not officially for my phone's hardware.



So how did you like it? I was thinking about waiting until Droid Junk made a version of JB. He says he is going to wait until after the official version is released. His droid junk ROM is based off of P3Droids tranquilla ice. It is really smooth and quick. I watched DroidModderX talk about JB and he had a lot of good to say about it. Says it is really fast. And the new search features are pretty good.
7/5 4:03 PM | IP: Logged



Originally posted by n4dog:






Originally posted by dmm5157:

Great, now I'm curious.  I'm downloading the ROM now, going to give it a shot for the rest of the day.  The download is almost done, so I'll give my impressions, with the caveat that this is not an offical Android 4.1 experience as it's not officially for my phone's hardware.



So how did you like it? I was thinking about waiting until Droid Junk made a version of JB. He says he is going to wait until after the official version is released. His droid junk ROM is based off of P3Droids tranquilla ice. It is really smooth and quick. I watched DroidModderX talk about JB and he had a lot of good to say about it. Says it is really fast. And the new search features are pretty good.


The JB ROM port was for the international version of the HTC One X, so no luck getting it on my phone.  From what I read, a lot of stuff wasn't working on it anyways, so it was probably a waste of my time from that standpoint.  I'll wait and be patient for a stable release for the HTC One X.
7/5 4:13 PM | IP: Logged



Originally posted by dmm5157:






Originally posted by n4dog:









Originally posted by dmm5157:

Great, now I'm curious.  I'm downloading the ROM now, going to give it a shot for the rest of the day.  The download is almost done, so I'll give my impressions, with the caveat that this is not an offical Android 4.1 experience as it's not officially for my phone's hardware.





So how did you like it? I was thinking about waiting until Droid Junk made a version of JB. He says he is going to wait until after the official version is released. His droid junk ROM is based off of P3Droids tranquilla ice. It is really smooth and quick. I watched DroidModderX talk about JB and he had a lot of good to say about it. Says it is really fast. And the new search features are pretty good.




The JB ROM port was for the international version of the HTC One X, so no luck getting it on my phone.  From what I read, a lot of stuff wasn't working on it anyways, so it was probably a waste of my time from that standpoint.  I'll wait and be patient for a stable release for the HTC One X.




That is one thing I do like about having the GNex. Lots of hackers out there on that phone.
7/5 4:43 PM | IP: Logged



Originally posted by n4dog:






Originally posted by dmm5157:









Originally posted by n4dog:












Originally posted by dmm5157:

Great, now I'm curious.  I'm downloading the ROM now, going to give it a shot for the rest of the day.  The download is almost done, so I'll give my impressions, with the caveat that this is not an offical Android 4.1 experience as it's not officially for my phone's hardware.







So how did you like it? I was thinking about waiting until Droid Junk made a version of JB. He says he is going to wait until after the official version is released. His droid junk ROM is based off of P3Droids tranquilla ice. It is really smooth and quick. I watched DroidModderX talk about JB and he had a lot of good to say about it. Says it is really fast. And the new search features are pretty good.






The JB ROM port was for the international version of the HTC One X, so no luck getting it on my phone.  From what I read, a lot of stuff wasn't working on it anyways, so it was probably a waste of my time from that standpoint.  I'll wait and be patient for a stable release for the HTC One X.






That is one thing I do like about having the GNex. Lots of hackers out there on that phone.



Yep.  Part of me wants to sell this HTC One X or the Galaxy S3 for as much as I can get, then buy a GNex directly from Google Play (once they start selling it again). 



I'm not sure how the screen quality difference would affect my decission.  I haven't messed with a Galaxy Nexus next to a One X or GS3.  Might have to consider doing this though.

7/5 5:01 PM | IP: Logged

With VZW changing their plans to the family share plans. I will now have to buy all of my phones after they come out. I am not giving up my unlimited data. I can not afford the new plans. I have to many people on my accout with data plans. It would cost me a bunch. I like my GNex. Still not happy with the battery life even after turning everything off that is running. It will last all day if I dont use it. But pick it up and start using and it dies pretty fast. That is with out running 4G.
7/5 6:14 PM | IP: Logged
Back to basic questions. We are thinking of getting GS3s to replace our old flip phones.  Should we get the insurance?
7/10 11:53 AM | IP: Logged



Originally posted by F4Gary:
Back to basic questions. We are thinking of getting GS3s to replace our old flip phones.  Should we get the insurance?



That's up to you and depends on your carrier.  Each carrier has different monthly fees and deductible for replacement costs.  On Sprint, I believe the montly cost was $7-10 and the deductible is like $200.  If you don't break your phone, after 2 years you've spent $168 to $240 for the peace of mind. 



I carried insurance on my phones until the costs started going up.  Now, I roll the dice without insurance and just opt to buy used devices as replacements in the event that I break or lose (like I did 2 months ago) my phone.



Insurance is good for those people who are prone to breaking or losing stuff.  There was a period in time where my sister had to have phone replaced 3 times in 6 months.  Now most insurance coverages limit you to 2 replacements per calendar year.



I will also add that some devices like the Galaxy Nexus are available direclty from the vendors without carrier mark-ups.   The Galaxy Nexus can be purchased for $350 brand new and directly from Google.  That same device would cost you over $600 if you bought it from your carrier.  They up the cost to encourage people to get locked into new contracts.

7/10 12:42 PM | IP: Logged
Here's another ?  The GS3 doesn't come with Adobe Flash.  Is that a big deal anymore?  I will be using Sprint.
7/10 12:58 PM | IP: Logged



Originally posted by F4Gary:
Here's another ?  The GS3 doesn't come with Adobe Flash.  Is that a big deal anymore?  I will be using Sprint.



Adobe Flash is available for all devices via the Google Play Appstore.  The latest update came out yesterday and is supported for all devices that have Android 4.0.4 and higher.


I haven't read anything to the contrary.

7/10 1:24 PM | IP: Logged
Won't dependence on Adobe Flash be disappearing with html4?  I don't think the lack of Flash is a deal killer.  The iPhone has never supported it and look at its success.
7/10 9:32 PM | IP: Logged
Flash will still be around for a while still. It won't disappear overnight.
7/10 10:46 PM | IP: Logged
ICS is now being released by Motorola for RAZR and mine installed today.  I can't notice any major differences yet although the screen looks different.  The camera appears to be better and the colors are truer.  The beige walls in my office used to appear yellow in the pictures, and that is better now.
7/11 5:39 PM | IP: Logged
Whelp, just pulled the trigger on a couple of GS3s.
7/11 7:41 PM | IP: Logged

Originally posted by F4Gary:
Whelp, just pulled the trigger on a couple of GS3s.
You won't be disappointed.  I got mine on Monday and the thing is a beast. 

-Screen is amazingly clear.  I was using a Droid X2 before.  Its like going from standard definition to Bluray
-Customization is great, as are the widgets
-This is my 1st time using 4G LTE, but this thing is lightning fast
-I've only taken indoor pics thus far but the camera looks to be worlds better than my Droid X camera

I really don't have any negatives at this point, but the phone is brand new so maybe something pops up
7/11 10:03 PM | IP: Logged
I'm not knocking anyone who has a Droid.

But it baffles me how people have to find ways to convince themselves that they shouldn't get a iPhone. This conversation goes on all the time, whether it's in the office or a social setting. I just don't get it...shows the power of marketing and strong comps that are being given to the cell phone providers.Don't people see that iPhone users are some of the most satisfied customers in the electronic industry...it's pretty much a fact.

7/11 11:07 PM | IP: Logged

Originally posted by DanC78:
I'm not knocking anyone who has a Droid.

But it baffles me how people have to find ways to convince themselves that they shouldn't get a iPhone. This conversation goes on all the time, whether it's in the office or a social setting. I just don't get it...shows the power of marketing and strong comps that are being given to the cell phone providers.Don't people see that iPhone users are some of the most satisfied customers in the electronic industry...it's pretty much a fact.


Everyone has different needs.  I was not satisfied with my iPhone and I am not alone.  Android phones make up over 50% of the smartphone market in the US as of May, and some numbers have it up as high as 60%.

I don't see what you're referring to as people "convincing themselves", with regards to to NOT getting an iPhone.  Most of what I see tends to go the other way as far as people buying into the iPhone.
7/11 11:22 PM | IP: Logged
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But it baffles me how people have to find ways to convince themselves that they shouldn't get a iPhone.
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Gators will say that It boggles their minds why people need to convince themselves that they shouldn't be Gators!!!!  After all, the only people who go to FSU couldn't get into UF.
7/11 11:37 PM | IP: Logged

Originally posted by dmm5157:

Originally posted by DanC78:
I'm not knocking anyone who has a Droid.

But it baffles me how people have to find ways to convince themselves that they shouldn't get a iPhone. This conversation goes on all the time, whether it's in the office or a social setting. I just don't get it...shows the power of marketing and strong comps that are being given to the cell phone providers.Don't people see that iPhone users are some of the most satisfied customers in the electronic industry...it's pretty much a fact.


Everyone has different needs.  I was not satisfied with my iPhone and I am not alone.  Android phones make up over 50% of the smartphone market in the US as of May, and some numbers have it up as high as 60%.

I don't see what you're referring to as people "convincing themselves", with regards to to NOT getting an iPhone.  Most of what I see tends to go the other way as far as people buying into the iPhone.


I guess if there is something that is a must for your work that iPhone doesn't handle it makes absolute sense. (couldn't imagine what that could be though, not that I'd don't believe is exist) I just feel that everything in a person who is looking for a phone with any sense wakes up in the morning knows that iPhone is the leader and industry leader. Apple sets the tone and expectations of what a phone should do and do WELL all the time every time.
droid phones bombard you with flashy commercials, lots of signage within the stores, and brainwashed sales reps who obviously are being driven to push the Droids with incentive and pushes from management, which are in turn coming down from the cell phone manufactures.
marketing at its best.

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Dan, no offense but you make your statements about Apple like they are facts. They are opinions and to the experts, the iPhone is no longer the clear cut leader it may have been in the past. The difference between the two really comes Down to what features you desire and your
preference.

Unless you've used the other platforms considerably, its hard to make a fair comparison. I've been on Android for almost 4 years now and the advancements and innovation in that time has been significant. Some of the things Android has done well (multitasking, notification bar, widgets) have been added to iOS. The competition is getting heated and it makes all sides work harder to make a better product. I've also had my iPod Touch for 2 years and had an iPhone 4 for a month. I've had extensive experience with iOS and it's a fine choice for non-power users or people who don't care if they are limited on customization and choices. Reminds me of the old phrase with the Model T: you can have any color you want, as long as it's black. Also, Apple has had their fare share of advertisements over the year. Lately all they showcase is Siri, which I don't see as much more than a helpful gimmick. It's not a necessary feature and could use some refinement. Not much else has changed over the past few years otherwise.

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7/12 12:46 AM | IP: Logged Siri pretty much blows....not impressed with that yet, but I do like what their doing there. Just needs more time.

I had a droid for two years. It was the original one on the market and I agree there are much better phones to choose from now. But I still don't think droid is even remotely a better product. My coworker was going through this battle a few months ago. Half the office said droid, the other half said apple. He went with the droid, got the highest rated one on the market. He product dumped all the features to me the day after he got it. Some sales guy and prolly some Internet blogs hyped him up good. I told to tell me every time he has to take his battery out to reboot....we are up 8. He doesn't hate the phone, but I can see I dissatisfaction he is encountering that I have never come close to with my apple....that's a fact.

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Apple doesn't do 4G LTE well.  In fact, IT DOESN'T DO IT AT ALL.

I've also heard that iPhone does not give turn by turn GPS audible directions.  But I don't have time to verify that.

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brainwashed reps on the droid side?  I guess tha tdepends on where you go.  Best Buy is likely to push droid, but when I went into the AT&T for my wife's first smartphone, they were all on the iphone gravy train.
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