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I like having the freedom to root my phone and do with it the way I want to. Custom ROM's are the way to go. Something I am not able to do with the iphone. iphones are just to plain jane for me. To each is his own. I was not happy to find out that Verizon locked the boatloader on the new S3. I am really getting tired of VZW just cant switch yet.
7/12 10:44 AM | IP: Logged

Originally posted by Bartdog:
brainwashed reps on the droid side?  I guess tha tdepends on where you go.  Best Buy is likely to push droid, but when I went into the AT&T for my wife's first smartphone, they were all on the iphone gravy train.
I was referring to Verizon I guess. I have never been in a Sprint or AT&T store.

Go Team iPhone!
7/12 1:24 PM | IP: Logged
Betamax was arguably better than VHS.  It was a great format, my brother had one, but....
7/12 3:05 PM | IP: Logged

Originally posted by F4Gary:
Betamax was arguably better than VHS.  It was a great format, my brother had one, but....
haha....no you just dent'n
7/12 4:53 PM | IP: Logged


Originally posted by surfnole:
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Apple sets the tone and expectations of what a phone should do and do WELL
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Apple doesn't do 4G LTE well.  In fact, IT DOESN'T DO IT AT ALL.

I've also heard that iPhone does not give turn by turn GPS audible directions.  But I don't have time to verify that.

This post was edited on 7/12 10:00 AM by surfnole


Well the 4G thing was related to the fact that the chipset they wanted wasn't available to ship in August of last year. The new iPad has an LTE option. One would assume the new iPhone would as well. It will also have turn-by-turn navigation. I have Apple Maps on my 4S, and prefer their navigation to Google's. 


I don't dislike Android, but it doesn't really have the appeal for me it once did. A lot of the features I loved were either removed/crippled or made impractical by the carriers. 

7/12 7:07 PM | IP: Logged
Which features would those be?
7/12 8:38 PM | IP: Logged

Originally posted by mnole03:


Originally posted by surfnole:
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Apple sets the tone and expectations of what a phone should do and do WELL
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Apple doesn't do 4G LTE well.  In fact, IT DOESN'T DO IT AT ALL.

I've also heard that iPhone does not give turn by turn GPS audible directions.  But I don't have time to verify that.

This post was edited on 7/12 10:00 AM by surfnole


Well the 4G thing was related to the fact that the chipset they wanted wasn't available to ship in August of last year. The new iPad has an LTE option. One would assume the new iPhone would as well. It will also have turn-by-turn navigation. I have Apple Maps on my 4S, and prefer their navigation to Google's. 


I don't dislike Android, but it doesn't really have the appeal for me it once did. A lot of the features I loved were either removed/crippled or made impractical by the carriers. 


Yes True.  You need to look at the features that were available when you made your purchase.   Whose fault was it that the chipset wasn't available?  Why was the chipset available for Google but not Apple?  Apple has more power than anybody over suppliers,  and they could have delayed the release of iPhone 4S to get what they needed.  It was an Apple business decision, and not a technology limitation, that prevented 4G LTE on the 4Gs.

I am not beholden to my Android phone, but the data speeds plus the larger screen size will keep me there for now.
7/12 11:30 PM | IP: Logged


Originally posted by surfnole:

Originally posted by mnole03:


Originally posted by surfnole:
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Apple sets the tone and expectations of what a phone should do and do WELL
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Apple doesn't do 4G LTE well.  In fact, IT DOESN'T DO IT AT ALL.

I've also heard that iPhone does not give turn by turn GPS audible directions.  But I don't have time to verify that.

This post was edited on 7/12 10:00 AM by surfnole


Well the 4G thing was related to the fact that the chipset they wanted wasn't available to ship in August of last year. The new iPad has an LTE option. One would assume the new iPhone would as well. It will also have turn-by-turn navigation. I have Apple Maps on my 4S, and prefer their navigation to Google's. 


I don't dislike Android, but it doesn't really have the appeal for me it once did. A lot of the features I loved were either removed/crippled or made impractical by the carriers. 


Yes True.  You need to look at the features that were available when you made your purchase.   Whose fault was it that the chipset wasn't available?  Why was the chipset available for Google but not Apple?  Apple has more power than anybody over suppliers,  and they could have delayed the release of iPhone 4S to get what they needed.  It was an Apple business decision, and not a technology limitation, that prevented 4G LTE on the 4Gs.

I am not beholden to my Android phone, but the data speeds plus the larger screen size will keep me there for now.
It was a technology limitation. The available 4G chipsets didn't meet their power consumption goals. Apple made the decision that battery life was more important. And they did delay the release of the iPhone 4S by more than three months.
7/13 12:34 AM | IP: Logged


Originally posted by dmm5157:
Which features would those be?
Aside from the no longer available GSM Galaxy Nexus, is there any Android phone that has the free native tethering feature enabled? I don't believe the Verizon version allows it, and native tethering in the GSM version is kind of crippled by AT&T's deep packet inspection. 


The other feature I loved about Android is the ability to download massive files. While that advantage is still there carrier throttling limits its usefulness. 

7/13 12:46 AM | IP: Logged


Desi, this may be somewhere on here all ready but I didn't see it...


On my Droid X, if I want to copy a URL off you tube then post it in the LR how do I do it?  I've seen the option to copy a URL before (by accident) so I know you can do it I just don't know how.  Thanks...

7/13 7:32 AM | IP: Logged

Originally posted by mnole03:


Originally posted by dmm5157:
Which features would those be?
Aside from the no longer available GSM Galaxy Nexus, is there any Android phone that has the free native tethering feature enabled? I don't believe the Verizon version allows it, and native tethering in the GSM version is kind of crippled by AT&T's deep packet inspection. 


The other feature I loved about Android is the ability to download massive files. While that advantage is still there carrier throttling limits its usefulness. 


Try PDAnet.  Free tethering and free mobile hotspot.  My version of PDAnet is free too.
7/13 10:35 AM | IP: Logged

Originally posted by mnole03:


Originally posted by dmm5157:
Which features would those be?
Aside from the no longer available GSM Galaxy Nexus, is there any Android phone that has the free native tethering feature enabled? I don't believe the Verizon version allows it, and native tethering in the GSM version is kind of crippled by AT&T's deep packet inspection. 


The other feature I loved about Android is the ability to download massive files. While that advantage is still there carrier throttling limits its usefulness. 


What do you mean "no longer available GSM Galaxy Nexus"? 

https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=galaxy_nexus_hspa

Despite Apple's great efforts to get it banned (for a pretty silly reason, considering the patent they are using), Google and Samsung seem to have made adequate updates to avoid the ban.

As for the carrier limitations, it's one of the best reasons to buy your devices directly from Google.  No need to get locked into a contract, the price is reasonable, and the phone is easy to hack.

Rooting and flashing custom ROMs is not hard on most major Android devices.  Rooting allows you to re-enable tethering options, remove carrier bloatware among other things.

As for downloading massive files, I have no idea what you are talking about.  I have downloaded files up to 500MB in size while at work on my phone via AT&T network on HSPA+ (ROMs from XDA, which is blocked by our work network).



CMAN, you talking about from the YouTube app or via the web browser on your phone?  If it's on your phone, just copy the URL.  If it's the app, then click the SHARE icon, then click GMAIL, Notes, or one of the other apps listed.  This should display the URL, which you can copy and then paste into your post on Warchant.
7/13 11:05 AM | IP: Logged

Originally posted by DanC78:

Originally posted by Bartdog:
brainwashed reps on the droid side?  I guess tha tdepends on where you go.  Best Buy is likely to push droid, but when I went into the AT&T for my wife's first smartphone, they were all on the iphone gravy train.
I was referring to Verizon I guess. I have never been in a Sprint or AT&T store.

Go Team iPhone!
makes sense, because AT&T was very late with the droids, and was the first carrier with iphone.
7/13 11:27 AM | IP: Logged
I'm getting caught up in Verizon's plan change that will take away unlimited data if I get a subsidized device.  Will drop me down to 2GB. AT&T plan offers 3GB.  I know AT&T has had network quality issues, but recent reports say those have largely been eliminated.  Verizon has a larger LTE network right now, but AT&T's 3G network is better and faster.  Plus, I expect the LTE networks to be largely equal within 12 months.

Wait until the new iPhone gets released and people find out to get it on Verizon, they will lose their unlimited data plan.  Should be interesting. 

7/13 12:28 PM | IP: Logged
Talked with a buddy last night who turned in his iPhone for a Droid. Said he likes the Droid for conference calling purposes. I told him the iPhone can totally do conference calling, but did agree it's a little bit of a hassle. He showed me how the 'droid does' it and I will have to admit that it was much more seamless than the iPhone. BUT while messing around on his phone I can say that I do like the look and feel of my iPhone much more. The droid has a Gotham look to its OS...it's dark or something to that effect. The OS of the iphone has more of a happy feel to it....sounds gay, but it's true. 
7/14 12:50 PM | IP: Logged

Originally posted by DanC78:
Talked with a buddy last night who turned in his iPhone for a Droid. Said he likes the Droid for conference calling purposes. I told him the iPhone can totally do conference calling, but did agree it's a little bit of a hassle. He showed me how the 'droid does' it and I will have to admit that it was much more seamless than the iPhone. BUT while messing around on his phone I can say that I do like the look and feel of my iPhone much more. The droid has a Gotham look to its OS...it's dark or something to that effect. The OS of the iphone has more of a happy feel to it....sounds gay, but it's true. 
Dan, you realize that there are dozens of home screen replacements for Android, most of which are free?  GoLauncher, Nemus Launcher, Launcher Pro, 360 Launcher, Helix Launcher ... I could go on and on.  Each one is extremely customizable and has unique interfaces and features.  You can switch back and forth between launchers on the go as well.

Here's my home screen and app drawer setup with NemusLauncher



This is true in almost all aspects of Android devices.  Don't like your home screen?  Change it.  Don't like your icons?  Change them.  Don't like your keyboard?  Change it.  Don't like your lock screen style?  Change it.  Almost every aspect of the look and feel of the OS is up to the user.  You can even install iOS and Windows Phone looking home launchers that make the phone look and feel like iOS and WP.


One of the things I missed the most when I had an iPhone 4 was being able to access system features from anywhere via the notification bar.  For example, you can toggle GPS, Bluetooth, Wifi, Airplane Mode, screen brightness, etc, on most versions of Android (if not in stock Android, through apps or customized ROMs). 

Here's what mine looks like.  I can access this by just pulling down the notification bar and clicking the QUICK SETTINGS button.  Other notifiation settings are scrollable and customizable along the top notification bar.



Other than specific apps (Siri, Facetime, iOS only apps), I cannot think of a single thing I cannot do quicker/better via iOS than Android.


I did like a few things about having the iPhone 4.  The things I liked were:
It charged fast
The interface is very basic, everything revolves around going "home"
I like that the settings for all apps is located under the iOS Settings app.
Everyone sells iPhone compatible accessories.  Cases, cords, docking stations, radios, etc.  They are everywhere.



The one thing that drove me nuts over and over is the lack of a back button.  I'd be in an app, then get a notification and click on it.  I'd want to go back to what I was doing and the only way to do that was to go to double click the home button and go back to my app.  On Android, I'd just hit the back button and it'd take me back to whatever I was doing before I clicked on the notification.

I used to notice force closes and errors a lot more in the Froyo days of Android.  Gingerbread increased stability and ICS made it even better.  I haven't can't recall the last time I had a force close, and most of them are due to poor coding from the app developer.  On my iPhone I noticed that I'd get closes and errors, but I wouldn't get a message telling me such.  All that would happen is the app would close and I'd go back to the home screen.  I think this tends to minimize the feel of errors with apps.  If you aren't told that an error occurred, you tend to not think it was an error, even if it was.  Stability may be a calling card for iOS, but it's not unique to that operating system.  Android 4.0 and beyond is outstanding and I've heard nothing but good things about Windows Phone.


Whatever device you end up with is your choice.  Everyone's taste and preferences are completely different and I realize that.  My wife has an iPhone 4s and she likes it.  While she misses a few things here or there about her old Samsung Epic and loves to use my phone to play games and watch videos (4.7" screen vs 3.6"), the phone does everything she needs and she has no complaints with it.  It works for me, as I don't have to show her how to use it. If she gets lost, she hits the home button and she's back to the beginning.

This post was edited on 7/14 1:19 PM by dmm5157

7/14 1:10 PM | IP: Logged
It's so easy to sell the Droid...it really does blow away the iphone with it's functionality. I will take a serious look in to getting one when it's time for me to upgrade again. But something in me tells me that I'm making a mistake if I leave the iphone. We shall see when the time comes....but I can say that I love my iphone and it has never let me down. 
7/14 1:33 PM | IP: Logged
Dan, don't confuse my posts as trying to convert you over to Android. It's not always a great fit for everyone. To many, the simple interface that iOS is what they need. All the choices and options Android offers can be overwhelming to some. It's like going to a restaurant with a 15 page menu: that isn't going to appeal to everyone.

If you love your iPhone and you have no needs for what Android offers, then there is no reason to switch. Especially if you have a lot of apps on iOS. Once you get committed to one OS, it's tough to make a switch.
7/14 1:50 PM | IP: Logged


Originally posted by mnole03:


Originally posted by dmm5157:
Which features would those be?
Aside from the no longer available GSM Galaxy Nexus, is there any Android phone that has the free native tethering feature enabled? I don't believe the Verizon version allows it, and native tethering in the GSM version is kind of crippled by AT&T's deep packet inspection. 


I have not had any issues with FoxFi and use it quite a bit to tether my tablet.
7/16 9:05 AM | IP: Logged
I tried to go to the local Verizon store and upgrade to the new Samsung Galaxy III over the weekend and they didn't have any.  They said the last time they got some in, they got two blue phones and one white phone.  That's a total of three that they were sent.  Meanwhile, VZ's website says I can order from the site and have it shipped in a day or two.  That makes it pretty difficult to support the local business when there's no telling when they'll have the phones in stock, vs getting it right away from their website.  It seems like they're screwing over their retailers by not giving them the newest stuff.  I guess they save on having to pay the commissions, but it seems king of sorry.
7/16 2:15 PM | IP: Logged
Russ, yeah demand has forced the Galaxy S3 to be in short supply for a while.  Some analysts said it could end up costing Samsung as much as 2 million units sold due to not being available.


On a somewhat related note, I saw this video posted on one of the Android news sites and thought it was pretty funny.  Especially the part about Siri being obsessed with pictures of stallions.

Android Jellybean Voice Search vs Siri

I'm sure Apple will be excited about all this.


BTW, swapped out my HTC One X tonight.  Ended up saving me $20 off what I paid for the One X as well.  I messed around with the GS3 for about 10 minutes before I finally decided to pull the trigger.  Overall, the build quality feels better with the One X and the screen is indeed better (best screen I've seen on any device).  The GS3 has a great display as well, but the colors are a bit too saturated and tend to make things look a little more cartoony than the One X, which makes things look very realistic.

Overall, this phone feels snappier than my One X either stock or Rooted and overclocked and with a custom ROM.  They really are 1A and 1B in the Android world right now.  It was a tough decision, but I'm happy to have MicroSD access.

This post was edited on 7/16 11:57 PM by dmm5157

7/16 6:01 PM | IP: Logged

Someone in one of the Android forums put me on a new app called GSam Battery Monitor.  It's a pretty nice little battery gauge that mounts in the notification bar.  It tells you how much time is left, and allows you to see what is eating your battery in a number of different metrics.  Great little app and easy to use.  Best of all, it's free.



https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gsamlabs.bbm&hl=en

7/18 11:12 AM | IP: Logged


Originally posted by dmm5157:

On a somewhat related note, I saw this video posted on one of the Android news sites and thought it was pretty funny.  Especially the part about Siri being obsessed with pictures of stallions.

Android Jellybean Voice Search vs Siri

I'm sure Apple will be excited about all this.

So an old version of Siri lost to the new version of Google Voice Search. 
7/18 11:36 AM | IP: Logged



Originally posted by mnole03:





Originally posted by dmm5157:

On a somewhat related note, I saw this video posted on one of the Android news sites and thought it was pretty funny.  Especially the part about Siri being obsessed with pictures of stallions.

Android Jellybean Voice Search vs Siri

I'm sure Apple will be excited about all this.




So an old version of Siri lost to the new version of Google Voice Search. 







Did you watch the video?  It wasn't so much that Siri lost, it was that it had terrible results, including continuing to try and display pictures of a stallion when that was never requested (she asked for pictures of a scallion and Siri would keep wanting to show pictures of a stallion even in future prompts).





If you watched TV and saw the commercials, you'd think Siri could do everything.  Just ask John Malkovich, Samuel Jackson, or Zooey Deschanel.  I've tried asking it the same questions as on the commercial and it doesn't work most of the time.



In most of the cases I've used it, it has pretty poor results.  Novel idea, not the best execution, at least not as good as advertised.



That was the main reason people were being sold the iPhone 4s.  That and the camera were the major upgrades over the iPhone 4.




I've already stated that I think voice search is largely a novel idea and nothing more.  It's not practical to be walking around talking to your phone to do things you could just as easily do by typing out a search on your own.  Even with the new Google Search on Jellybean, I will likely rarely use it.  I still found the video amusing, though.

7/18 11:47 AM | IP: Logged


Originally posted by dmm5157:



Originally posted by mnole03:





Originally posted by dmm5157:

On a somewhat related note, I saw this video posted on one of the Android news sites and thought it was pretty funny.  Especially the part about Siri being obsessed with pictures of stallions.

Android Jellybean Voice Search vs Siri

I'm sure Apple will be excited about all this.




So an old version of Siri lost to the new version of Google Voice Search. 








Did you watch the video?  It wasn't so much that Siri lost, it was that it had terrible results, including continuing to try and display pictures of a stallion when that was never requested (she asked for pictures of a scallion and Siri would keep wanting to show pictures of a stallion even in future prompts).




If you watched TV and saw the commercials, you'd think Siri could do everything.  Just ask John Malkovich, Samuel Jackson, or Zooey Deschanel.  I've tried asking it the same questions as on the commercial and it doesn't work most of the time.


In most of the cases I've used it, it has pretty poor results.  Novel idea, not the best execution, at least not as good as advertised.


That was the main reason people were being sold the iPhone 4s.  That and the camera were the major upgrades over the iPhone 4.



I've already stated that I think voice search is largely a novel idea and nothing more.  It's not practical to be walking around talking to your phone to do things you could just as easily do by typing out a search on your own.  Even with the new Google Search on Jellybean, I will likely rarely use it.  I still found the video amusing, though.


Right, but she used a very old version of Siri. The results wouldn't be the same with the new version.
7/18 12:03 PM | IP: Logged

I see you are still missing the point ...

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The Samsung Galaxy S III now comes in Garnet.  I prefer black phones, but it's kind of cool as an FSU fan.


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Originally posted by mnole03:

Right, but she used a very old version of Siri. The results wouldn't be the same with the new version.



And if you really want to stick to your guns on this. TechnoBuffalo did a review of the two as well (listed in the details of the video above).



Default Google search vs iPhone 4s running iOS 6 Beta 2.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDsOtdRtG0Q&feature=related





For additional clarification, the point of me posting the video was really just the unintended comedy of the search.  The version of Siri aside, it was a funny consequence of the test.

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Originally posted by dmm5157:



Originally posted by mnole03:

Right, but she used a very old version of Siri. The results wouldn't be the same with the new version.



And if you really want to stick to your guns on this. TechnoBuffalo did a review of the two as well (listed in the details of the video above).


Default Google search vs iPhone 4s running iOS 6 Beta 2.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDsOtdRtG0Q&feature=related




For additional clarification, the point of me posting the video was really just the unintended comedy of the search.  The version of Siri aside, it was a funny consequence of the test.


The TechnoBuffalo test was certainly more fair. I wasn't saying that Siri was faster or always more capable. Just that the woman used known problems in an older version of the software to make it look incompetent.


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The wife found a VZ store that had a couple of the Galaxy S3's in stock, so she picked them up.  I haven't had much time to mess around with it yet - working and also trying to re-load the apps when I get some time.  It's certainly big (that's what she said) and it looks nice.  We'll see how it goes.
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Desi - There's a little sticker on the bottom right corner of the box my phone came in that says "updated", and another one in the same spot on the clear screen protector.  Do you know what was updated?  I read something that said they were rishing to put more memory in the phones in anticipation for Ice Cream Sandwich 4.1.  Do you think this is what it could be for?  Or is some other kind of update that happened before it was shipped?  Thanks!
7/18 3:55 PM | IP: Logged



Originally posted by NDallasRuss:
Desi - There's a little sticker on the bottom right corner of the box my phone came in that says "updated", and another one in the same spot on the clear screen protector.  Do you know what was updated?  I read something that said they were rishing to put more memory in the phones in anticipation for Ice Cream Sandwich 4.1.  Do you think this is what it could be for?  Or is some other kind of update that happened before it was shipped?  Thanks!



I'd guess it was a software update before you got your box.  I didn't notice it on mine, the sales person took mine off.



I doubt it's any hardware changes. 



BTW, Android 4.1 is Jelly Bean.  Yours sould have 4.0.4 Ice Cream Sandwich    I cannot wait until we get Jellybean.  Looks fantastic, by all accounts. 





I will say that I do miss the display of the HTC One X.  That thing was truly an amazing display:  Crisp, vibrant, but not oversaturated colors.  While the display on the GS3 is good, it's not as good as the One X.  I wish I hadn't had the One X for almost a month before I got the GS3.  I wouldn't have known what I was missing.  Hopefully I get used to it soon.  Still bothers me a bit.  I have excellent vision and I notice the subtle difference.



Memory wise, though, that extra GB of RAM seems to make a huge difference in multitasking.  I had issues with my launchers having to re-render when going back to the home screen after running games or intense apps for a while.  I haven't had it happen once yet with my GS3.

7/18 4:01 PM | IP: Logged
I'm still waiting for my upgrade to ICS. Sprint has delayed it now for three months on the EVO 3D
7/19 8:50 AM | IP: Logged
Is there still a benefit to letting the battery run all the way down the first time before recharging it?  At one time, it was supposed to extend battery life going forward, or at least that was the urban legend perpetuated by the places I'd bought cell phones from in the past.  Still case?  Never was the truth?  Used to be but now technology is beyond that?  Thanks!
7/19 10:39 AM | IP: Logged



Originally posted by NDallasRuss:
Is there still a benefit to letting the battery run all the way down the first time before recharging it?  At one time, it was supposed to extend battery life going forward, or at least that was the urban legend perpetuated by the places I'd bought cell phones from in the past.  Still case?  Never was the truth?  Used to be but now technology is beyond that?  Thanks!



Nope, not the case any more and hasn't been for a while.  Lithium Ion batteries, used in most rechargable devices, do not have battery memory.  They do not become conditioned like our old first gen portable phones of yester year.



Fully discharging your battery can actually cause damage.  Most devices protect against this by turning off before the battery completely dies. 


You can charge your phone whenever you like.  I usually put mine on the charger around 20-30%, which is usually around the time I go to bed at night (around midnight or 1AM).

7/19 11:05 AM | IP: Logged



Originally posted by dmm5157:






Originally posted by NDallasRuss:
Is there still a benefit to letting the battery run all the way down the first time before recharging it?  At one time, it was supposed to extend battery life going forward, or at least that was the urban legend perpetuated by the places I'd bought cell phones from in the past.  Still case?  Never was the truth?  Used to be but now technology is beyond that?  Thanks!






Nope, not the case any more and hasn't been for a while.  Lithium Ion batteries, used in most rechargable devices, do not have battery memory.  They do not become conditioned like our old first gen portable phones of yester year.



Fully discharging your battery can actually cause damage.  Most devices protect against this by turning off before the battery completely dies. 


You can charge your phone whenever you like.  I usually put mine on the charger around 20-30%, which is usually around the time I go to bed at night (around midnight or 1AM).




Thanks for that - I really appreciate all the information.
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My wife currently has an iPhone 4s (she's kinda a techno tard) and she LOVES her phone.  She had the Evo Shift and grew to hate it (maybe jinxed future Android device opportunities).



I am currrently considering an iPhone simply so that I can Facetime with my daughter.



Is there anything that crosses platforms that would allow us to video chat when I am out of town for  business?

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If you are still considering the iphone, definitely wait it out for the new iphone which should be out sept/oct.
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Originally posted by sloth43:


My wife currently has an iPhone 4s (she's kinda a techno tard) and she LOVES her phone.  She had the Evo Shift and grew to hate it (maybe jinxed future Android device opportunities).



I am currrently considering an iPhone simply so that I can Facetime with my daughter.



Is there anything that crosses platforms that would allow us to video chat when I am out of town for  business?





You could install Skype on both phones, that will cross platforms.
8/2 11:57 PM | IP: Logged Is Skype better than it used to be? My past experiences weren't great. Facetime seems seamless when my wife talks to her brother.

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Originally posted by dmm5157:






Originally posted by NDallasRuss:
Desi - There's a little sticker on the bottom right corner of the box my phone came in that says "updated", and another one in the same spot on the clear screen protector.  Do you know what was updated?  I read something that said they were rishing to put more memory in the phones in anticipation for Ice Cream Sandwich 4.1.  Do you think this is what it could be for?  Or is some other kind of update that happened before it was shipped?  Thanks!






I'd guess it was a software update before you got your box.  I didn't notice it on mine, the sales person took mine off.



I doubt it's any hardware changes. 



BTW, Android 4.1 is Jelly Bean.  Yours sould have 4.0.4 Ice Cream Sandwich    I cannot wait until we get Jellybean.  Looks fantastic, by all accounts. 





I will say that I do miss the display of the HTC One X.  That thing was truly an amazing display:  Crisp, vibrant, but not oversaturated colors.  While the display on the GS3 is good, it's not as good as the One X.  I wish I hadn't had the One X for almost a month before I got the GS3.  I wouldn't have known what I was missing.  Hopefully I get used to it soon.  Still bothers me a bit.  I have excellent vision and I notice the subtle difference.



Memory wise, though, that extra GB of RAM seems to make a huge difference in multitasking.  I had issues with my launchers having to re-render when going back to the home screen after running games or intense apps for a while.  I haven't had it happen once yet with my GS3.




ATT/HTC just released an update for the OneX.  Supposedly does a little housekeeping to improve multitasking speed/functionality.  Also, gives you the option to hide the obtrusive menu bar, in favor of a long press of the "recents" button.  So far so good.
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Just as an FYI, I've had a little experience with LTE now, after beingin Tampa and Orlando in the last few weeks.  In Tampa I topped out around 20Mbps, and averaged around 15 Mbps.



In Orlando, I was never under 15 Mbps (my slowest test) and most times my speed tests were over 40 Mbps.  Fastest speed tests topped out over 70 Mbps.



Battery life was rough the first day in Orlando, but the next few days my phone had the best battery life from the group of people I was with.  I used my phone quite a bit for e-mail, taking/sending pictures, texting, etc, much more than the others as well.  The other phones were an iPhone 4, iPhone 4s (Both from AT&T) and an HTC Windows Phone from T Mobile.  The guy with the Windows phone had hardware issues and his phone stopped holding a charge.  Had to have a new phone ordered while we were there in Orlando.



Bottom line of the post, I am a believer that LTE can both offer faster data speeds AND good battery life.  Right now there isn't a lot of traffic on AT&T's LTE network, so that's probably the reason for the very high data speeds.  I'm sure once the new iPhone comes out (which will likely have LTE), that won't really be the case any longer.  Still, it's incredibly fast and now I feel like I'm on Dial-up with 2-3Mbps speeds here in Tallahassee.

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OK dmm5157 help a fellow Nole out here. I've been using Nextel since circa 2001 and am aware of Sprint's plans to shut down the IDEN towers next year. I'm not as well versed on the new advances in the current market of cell phones so I was hoping you could steer me right. I currently have an i880 Motorola. I'm not real big on having fancy apps and internet but what I would like is a good quality phone for under $150 (used or new is fine, I usually buy from Ebay). I'm very against the open face touch screen but it seems I have no choice since flip phones have gone the way of the dinosaur. I'm leaning toward Android in something Samsung, what say ye?
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Originally posted by Cloud Dancer:
OK dmm5157 help a fellow Nole out here. I've been using Nextel since circa 2001 and am aware of Sprint's plans to shut down the IDEN towers next year. I'm not as well versed on the new advances in the current market of cell phones so I was hoping you could steer me right. I currently have an i880 Motorola. I'm not real big on having fancy apps and internet but what I would like is a good quality phone for under $150 (used or new is fine, I usually buy from Ebay). I'm very against the open face touch screen but it seems I have no choice since flip phones have gone the way of the dinosaur. I'm leaning toward Android in something Samsung, what say ye?

There still are basic phones on Sprint, and even a flip phone from Samsung, but they aren't making them with the same quality they did years ago.  Sprint is making their money on selling data plans, so that's where the market has shifted.


If you just want a good quality phone, I'd say your options are:

Android:
Samsung Galaxy S3 - It's not cheap, but it is the best Android phone out there right now IMO (or at least tied with the HTC One X/Evo).  The 16GB version will set you back $200.

Samsung Galaxy Nexus - Excellent authentic Google experience Android device.  Great hardware (pretty comparable to the GS3), although some have complained about battery life.  If you won't be using much data or sync-heavy features, this probably won't really apply to you.  This phone is free if you upgrade online.


iOS:
With the anticipated release of the new iphone next month, the iPhone 4s is now available on Sprint for $150.  It's a good, fast phone and is easy to learn.  Again, if apps and internet really aren't your concern, the iPhone is still a great choice and tends to retain its value very well.  Since the new iPhone is coming out next month, however, I'd expect the price for the 4s to go down to $99 and the new iPhone will be $199.  The iPhone 4 will likely be $5



If you want to stay on a budget, I'd say go with the Galaxy Nexus or an iPhone.  May want to wait a month for the iPhone, regardless if you get a 4s or a 5 (or whatever the hell they end up calling it).
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Yeah I saw the flip basic and was just reluctant to go with it in fear
that basic phones will soon be obsolete too, so may as well transition
to new technology now. I still may opt for the samsung flip but I like to stay away from the contract deals when possible. I think I've only been on 2 contracts with Nextel/Sprint in my whole time of service. Thanks for the info, I was leaning towards a Galaxy "something or another" anyway just based on the couple of hours of research I put in today. They seemed to be the upper class phones from what I've been able to find. I haven't researched iphones at all so I may look into them too.
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Originally posted by Cloud Dancer:
Yeah I saw the flip basic and was just reluctant to go with it in fear
that basic phones will soon be obsolete too, so may as well transition
to new technology now. I still may opt for the samsung flip but I like to stay away from the contract deals when possible. I think I've only been on 2 contracts with Nextel/Sprint in my whole time of service. Thanks for the info, I was leaning towards a Galaxy "something or another" anyway just based on the couple of hours of research I put in today. They seemed to be the upper class phones from what I've been able to find. I haven't researched iphones at all so I may look into them too.
I've got a GS3, it's an incredible phone.  The Nexus is no slouch either, and I'm a big fan of Nexus devices due being the first devices to get official Android updates and fantastic developer support.

iPhones are, of course, great phones and really retain their value well over time.  If you don't want to get into a contract, I guarantee you'll be able to find cheap used iPhones soon in anticipation of the new iPhone coming out. 
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desi, i need to pick up something for my kid and considering his ability to break/lose/water damage phones (all 3 have occurred at the same time...) i was weighing up my options and at this point leaning toward jamming him on the t-mo $30 plan since he spends most of his time surfing and texting anyway and i can have him supplement with viber for voip calls.

best bang for the buck right now (assuming i will have to replace it again) what would be your suggestion? i'm leaning toward a google nexus S since they seem to be relatively cheap and ready to receive JB?


preferably the phone would be able to work on either t-mo or att so i can jump between MVNO's if i need to and stable because he will invariably load it with apps.

8/31 12:05 PM | IP: Logged See if the Ipad mini comes out reasonably priced in Septmeber and buy one of this lifelock case things that seal them up. I think they are like 60 cases, but still.

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lifeproof is the name, sorry

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ya i have seen those cases - thinking about getting one for myself actually from when i'm out on my bike.

i really need something that supports the 1700mhz t-mo band as well as the 1900mhz att bands. hence my confusion as to whether to go with t-mo specific nexus s or spend a bit more and get a galaxy nexus or possibly unlock an S2? 


of course spending more has its issues!

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