Great posts!! Its just a shame that the NCAA didnt choose to speak with people like you or anyone associated with the Florida group before making their decision...I am astounded that equal weight for the positive association we have with the Florida tribe wasnt factored into any decision, they chose to only listen to the dissenting views of the Oklahoma tribe, and this by the NCAA's OWN admission!!
Best of luck to you in the future, dont be a stranger on the boards!!!
Posted on 8/9 12:13 AM | IP: Logged
Originally posted by jaxraider: Emily,
Great posts!! Its just a shame that the NCAA didnt choose to speak with people like you or anyone associated with the Florida group before making their decision...I am astounded that equal weight for the positive association we have with the Florida tribe wasnt factored into any decision, they chose to only listen to the dissenting views of the Oklahoma tribe, and this by the NCAA's OWN admission!!
Best of luck to you in the future, dont be a stranger on the boards!!!
Exactly Shame on the NCAA committee!!
Posted on 8/13 6:27 AM | IP: Logged
Emily, I did not think it was possible to be any more proud of being a Seminole but I am after reading your messages. I think we might end up thanking the ncaa when it's all said and done as I firmly believe it will make us all more proud of our school. I don't know if the younger NOLES can feel it as much as an older NOLE, but your messages brought some tears to my eyes. I've been proud to be a NOLE since I started at FSU back in 1966, but never more proud than I am today.
Posted on 8/11 3:25 PM | IP: Logged
Just wanted to pop this back to the top to see if we can get Emily's continued feedback on some of our updates since her last posting.
Posted on 8/12 8:37 AM | IP: Logged
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Posted on 8/12 7:06 PM | IP: Logged
Easily one of the top threads in the history of Warchant! I hope you realize, Emily, how much we all enjoy your feedback -- keep it coming!
I would also like to echo the above comments about authentic Seminole attire/merchandise -- it would sell like hotcakes and create a win-win situation for all involved.
I'm curious about two things if you have time to answer them:
1. Do you think that "scalp 'em" being a part of the fight song offends Seminoles? Just curious to get an answer from a reliable source...
2. What do you and your tribe think of the Seminole head logo? I only ask this because I just read on the North Dakota site that they had actual Sioux design their logo and ours has been around a long time (and is supposedly a profile of Dr. Tommy Wright whose class most of us took at some point).
Thanks again!
Posted on 8/12 7:32 PM | IP: Logged
Am i the only one who feels this thread should be pinned to the top, at least for a while. If so, I guess I will just let it die.
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Thanks Emily. It means so much more coming from your perspective.
Posted on 8/10 7:40 AM | IP: Logged
Emily,
I hope to meet you some day. I have known Carla, who you currently work with in Tampa, for many years. In fact, I have known her and her mother Louise Gopher, since before Carla attended FSU. We in Orlando are fortunate to have members of the Tribe from Brighton Reservation join us for over 10 years now at our annual Bobby Bowden banquet event. Carla joined us again this year. Her mother is the Director of Eduction for the Seminole Tribe of Florida. She was on our program, along with several Brighton children. They shared with us how one day a week the children are in classes to learn their native Creek lanquage and customs. The children said the alphabet and their names in Creek, and then said the blessing for our meal in Creek. It was a mutally enjoyable event for all in attendance. There are also Seminole ladies selling their beautiful crafts, so we have the opportunity to buy all types of patchwork items others in this thread have said they would like to purchase. There is a company out of the Tampa area that sells these items via a catalog and website. Perhaps you could provide that information for those that would like to order some items. I can't seem to find it.
We deeply appreciate your imput.
Posted on 8/10 11:55 AM | IP: Logged
Emily, I am from Tallahasee and have lived here my entire life. I was raised on Seminole football and have always had a love for FSU starting back when I was 6 years old. My dream as a child was to oneday attend FSU and become a "Seminole." Well, I made a lot of mistakes and experienced a lot of failure at the hands of my own decision-making. But, I never quit and got back up each time I fell down. I just recently completed T.C.C and finally at 34 I regeistered as a junior at FSU on 8/8/05. There were times during the orientation I became teary eyed, because I knew I had finally made it.
After reading your post and the comments of T.K I realize my life-story is somewhat similar to the history of the Native Seminoles of Florida.
I guess my point is our name and our mascott, for I am sure many of us, have from this situation been reminded that they truly symbolize a spirit of courage and conviction to fight for what you believe in no matter how much adversity you experience.
And like you it disgusts me that ignorance threatens to take it away.
The Spirit of the Florida Seminole Tribe is truly a inspiration!
Posted on 8/10 4:05 PM | IP: Logged
Emily,
It was nice to read your post. My brother-in-law is the Operations Mgr at the Museum on Big Cypress. His two brothers also work on the Reservation. One of them would have been at FSU while you were there. He was in the Marching Chiefs. I guess the best thing I can say about the Seminoles is what a great guy my brother-in-law is.
GO NOLES!
Posted on 8/10 5:40 PM | IP: Logged
Thank you for your post Emily!
It would seem that the NCAA did not talk very much with the Oklahoma Seminole Tribe!......The vote was 18-2!...Now there's due dilligence!
Posted on 8/11 1:12 PM | IP: Logged
How many people are on the Florida Tribe's Council? Add those with the 18 in favor of us in Oklahoma..and that is what I would call a landslide victory for us!
Posted on 8/11 2:19 PM | IP: Logged
May God continue to bless you and your proud people. My two boys have learned a great deal about Native American's and the Seminoles of Florida because of our family support of the Floirda State Seminoles.
They have a deep respect for all Native American people and resent our own history of gross mistreatment of Native Americans. My boy are 11 and 13 and have a level of repect for Native Americans that I believe would not exist to this degree were it not for the positive exposure of the Seminoles at FSU events. The NCAA's action are anoyther example, in my humble opinion, of the white man's government telling Native Americans what is best for them. This is beyond pathetic and must not stand.
Again, thank you and God bless.
This post was edited on 8/9 10:33 PM by guynole
Posted on 8/9 10:29 PM | IP: Logged
Emily, thanks for sharing.
Posted on 8/9 11:37 AM | IP: Logged
One of the best threads I've read in quite some time. Thanks Emily!!!
Posted on 8/9 11:52 AM | IP: Logged
tcnoles, emily.... I searched for years for authenic Seminole head dress (caps, hats, etc.). I forgot what you call them, but the only thing I could find did not have a bill or brim. Otherwise I would have bought some.
Posted on 8/9 1:16 PM | IP: Logged
emily, this is off topic but I have two questions. 1. What is the correct pronunciaton (overlook spelling):
CHEE kee or chee KEE
2. The Seminoles used the sap from the root of a tree or a plant to ward off mosquitoes, what kind of a tree or plant was it?
Thank you for your time.
Posted on 8/9 1:18 PM | IP: Logged
Not much else to say after that. Thanks so much for an enlightning post.
Posted on 8/9 10:56 AM | IP: Logged
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Posted on 8/9 11:18 AM | IP: Logged
Emily, Thank you for the post. It is definately good insite to have your unique perspective on this issue, and to clear up some common misconceptions that other school fans and even non-Seminole Seminoles have. Most of your issues have been touched on, and I just wanted to make one recomendation. You mentioned that one area of fan expresion you did not appreciate was the "chessy outfits" that some of the fans sport to the game. I was wondering the Seminole perspective of having vests and other gear actually made and marketed by the Seminole Tribe, sold at the games, through some outlet related to the school, or even on the Seminole tribe website. I think this would show some additional solidarity between the tribe and the school, and would also have our fan base appear more appropriate and respectful of our icon.
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Posted on 8/9 10:42 AM | IP: Logged
Emily, I enjoyed meeting you at the Unconquered dedication ( I sat at your table in the Ballroom ). Anyway, your thoughts and offers of help are most meaningful. Hopefully someone from the President's office has already been in touch with you earlier today. I love your aunt's observation that "white people are always messing things up" ! The NCAA has acted in a way that others have called a "Plantation Mentality".....believing that they know best and must "look out" for others. Did you notice that the NCAA VP admitted that they had talked to Oklahoma Seminoles, but never contacted Seminoles from Florida? Now that's really showing respect for Native Americans!
Posted on 8/9 12:34 AM | IP: Logged
Great post. Thanks for your insight.
The problem with this whole situation is that the NCAA does not take viewpoints like this into consideration. If one person feels offended, the NCAA thinks it's discriminatory.
I hate the NCAA.
Posted on 8/9 10:07 PM | IP: Logged
The NCAA is full of **** (use your favorite word for this situation)...
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