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Does anyone else think this is the most ridiculous article? UF students and alumni are known for being extremely arrogant, but this article is just beyond ridiculous. Let me count the ways...

  1. First sentence... "The question has lingered..." This writer doesn't cite a single person with whom the question lingers. In fact, a few paragraphs down, he cites UF's provost, who says just the opposite: "I think that U.S. News and World Report is not the end-all, be-all."

  2. Despite the headline, "What would making the top 10 mean for UF?," UF is currently #54 in US News & World Report's main rankings (http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/page+6). The writer has to rely on another USN&WR ranking to get UF even remotely close to the top 10 - they are the 17th best public university (FSU is #42, btw).

  3. This is an article. And yet it reads like an opinion piece.

  4. Surprise, surprise. The writer went to the University of Florida. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/joey-flechas/23/95/466


Link: What would making the top 10 mean for UF?1/14 9:30 AM | IP: Logged
It seemed seemed somewhat fair to me.  They mean top 10 PUBLIC university. 

The problem with UF's goals is that UF has always operated to the detriment of all other state schools.  The power that be at UF aren't interested in improving Florida.  They are interesting padding the egos of UF alumni.

UF has had exponentually more taxpayer money thrown at it than any other state university.  The Florida legislature has given UF exponentially more money to build UF's infrastucture.  The Florida legislature has already given UF a monopoly on certain high dollar research programs.  UF has historically received and continues to receive exponentially more money to run these programs from the Florida legislature.  What makes anyone think that this is a good state policy?  What makes anyone think that anything else will get UF into the top 10 granting it more money and granting it more monopolies?

I think that the better policy is for the Florida legislature to commit to a top tier of universities (plural).

I also think that UF's IFAS and the USF medical programs, UCF medical programs, FSU medical programs, FIU medical program and UF's Health Science Center and accompanying teaching hospitals, etc. should be assets of the Florida university system shared by all schools. 
1/14 9:59 AM | IP: Logged
Doofy, not sure what you expect. The piece was written by the Gainesville Sun. If one works in Gainesville, one does not cross the University of Florida if they expect to be employed long or have any success. I tend to agree with NoleOne that this particular piece wasn't that bad given much of what I have read. My favorite was the piece about two years ago stating that it was harder to get into UF than Harvard for many students. 

1/14 10:46 AM | IP: Logged

NoleOne's remarks sum it up nicely.  The uf grads in the Legislature have circled back around in terms of centering on the success of uf and not the rest of the state's Universities.  Of course, this could be a result of the overall cutbacks in funding and a collective mindset that regardless of what part of the state they hail from and what university might be in their district they're going to put uf first. 

If the voters don't make them pay, then why not?  There are no consequences for their actions in this regard.
1/14 5:30 PM | IP: Logged


Originally posted by doofy10:

Does anyone else think this is the most ridiculous article? UF students and alumni are known for being extremely arrogant, but this article is just beyond ridiculous. Let me count the ways...

  1. First sentence... "The question has lingered..." This writer doesn't cite a single person with whom the question lingers. In fact, a few paragraphs down, he cites UF's provost, who says just the opposite: "I think that U.S. News and World Report is not the end-all, be-all."

  2. Despite the headline, "What would making the top 10 mean for UF?," UF is currently #54 in US News & World Report's main rankings (http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/page+6). The writer has to rely on another USN&WR ranking to get UF even remotely close to the top 10 - they are the 17th best public university (FSU is #42, btw).

  3. This is an article. And yet it reads like an opinion piece.

  4. Surprise, surprise. The writer went to the University of Florida. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/joey-flechas/23/95/466



1.  Top 10 Public has been a goal of UF and Machen from the day he was hired.  The writer doesn't need to site any sources.  Just google it.

2.  Now that it looks like the state is a bit more serious about giving more funding to UF with the goal of pushing it up the rankings, it is now a legitimate question to ask about and understand what the implications are of being a top public university.

3.  All articles have opinion in them.

4.  I'm not surprised.  UF has a very big college of communications and many of their graduates choose to stay in Florida.
1/14 8:34 PM | IP: Logged
It means to me President Barron needs to secure at least the same public commitments for Florida State.  Otherwise, the people down the road can wait like everyone else.

**Time to start calling and writing our representatives on behalf of FSU**

Every year about this time this kind of thing gins up.  It IS serious, and we need to immediately make our Seminole voices heard.
1/14 9:35 PM | IP: Logged
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