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Gov. Scott released his budget today and...he is requesting $15 million to the University of Florida to achieve a national ranking in the top 10.  I guess this is the payoff for Machen staying at UF.  To think that Gov. Scott would include this specifically in his budget is unthinkable and outrageous.

Here are the links to the Governor's budget so you can see for yourself:
Budget highlights (UF on page 11):  http://www.flgov.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/2013-Budget-Highlights.pdf
Full budget:  http://www.floridafamiliesfirst.com/HomeFY14.htm
Budget FAQ:  http://www.flgov.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/2013-Budget-FAQ.pdf

Thankfully only the Legislature has the authority to appropriate money and the Senate/House will be crafting their budgets over the next few months.  Both Speaker Weatherford and President Gaetz have FSU connections so I would hope this special carve-out for UF would not stand.  Contact them but please be nice.  We don't want them to think all Seminoles are rude.

If there was ever a time to reach out to your legislators it is NOW!  Make sure you they know how you feel about this injustice and that FSU must be treated fairly.  Use the Advocate for Florida State website to learn more about FSU's operations at the Capitol and how you can contact your legislators.  And remember, keep your comments civil and constructive.

This is a hard fight but everyone must be heard.
Keep calm and Go Noles!

Link: Advocate for Florida State1/31 7:01 PM | IP: Logged
Done.
1/31 9:05 PM | IP: Logged
Unreal.
1/31 9:27 PM | IP: Logged
Totally agree!  Will write ASAP.
1/31 10:26 PM | IP: Logged You need to post this over on the TC so the most people will see it. I would, but I'm stuck on my mobile.

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Originally posted by Democratic Nole:
You need to post this over on the TC so the most people will see it. I would, but I'm stuck on my mobile.

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Thanks Democratic Nole.  I would but I don't have access over there 
If anyone else does, please feel free to re-post, copy/paste, whatever you have to do to make sure more people are aware of this issue.
Thanks for your help in getting the word out!
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I'm just flabbergasted that we have a governor who has stripped higher education of state funding by reasoning that he is cutting wasteful spending, but he is now on board with the rationale that the one university in Florida that needs money the least and the one university that has been pilfering the state coffers to the detriment of other state universities for decades needs even more money so that it can move up in the rankings of one magazine.

Absolutely disgusting.

Our governor's new stated higher education policy is to make UF elite and starve FSU.

That moron sure knows how to endear himself to Tallahassee.
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Here are tge higher education budget charts where UF gets the same type of budget as everyone PLUS the IFAS budget and health budgets. UF supporters have already rigged the state appropriations so that UF receives the lion share of funding and resarch dolkars and doesn't share it with any other state institutions. UF pulling this latest garbage with the governor is a complete fraud on the Florida taxpayer. http://www.flbog.edu/about/budget/docs/2012-13-Allocation-Summary_Board-Website_Final.pdf

This post was edited on 2/1 7:42 AM by NoleOne

2/1 7:33 AM | IP: Logged

Originally posted by NoleOne:
I'm just flabbergasted that we have a governor who has stripped higher education of state funding by reasoning that he is cutting wasteful spending, but he is now on board with the rationale that the one university in Florida that needs money the least and the one university that has been pilfering the state coffers to the detriment of other state universities for decades needs even more money so that it can move up in the rankings of one magazine.

Absolutely disgusting.

Our governor's new stated higher education policy is to make UF elite and starve FSU.

That moron sure knows how to endear himself to Tallahassee.


Very true.

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Originally posted by NoleOne:
That moron sure knows how to endear himself to Tallahassee.


It's not like the city cares as much as most of us do about the university. This is hailed positively on the Gainesville and nearby papers, but completely buried in the local fishwrap. If it were adverse to FAMU or TCC, it would be headline news.
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Originally posted by FreedByJCJr:






Originally posted by NoleOne:
That moron sure knows how to endear himself to Tallahassee.




It's not like the city cares as much as most of us do about the university. This is hailed positively on the Gainesville and nearby papers, but completely buried in the local fishwrap. If it were adverse to FAMU or TCC, it would be headline news.



Unfortunately, as long as you all keep buying that mullet wrapper, FSU will continue to get short shrift.   Cancel and tell them why you're doing so.

Like so many of us here in Jax have done with the Times Union.


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Just wrote my letters.  All sent. 

We really need to step it up here.
2/1 2:05 PM | IP: Logged Unfortunately, the real decisions will be made by Seth McKeel and Joe Negron. McKeel is a strong Gator and Negron went to Stetson.

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Negron is listed as a member of the Seminole Caucus.  So they have a Seminole and a Gator.
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President Barron has been sending out this plan to
legislators, Gov. Scott, and other important players to enhance excellence,
achieve national prominence, and secure greater job opportunities for students.  It is a nice, detailed report.  Dr. Barron does not disappoint!  I hope they can link these proposals to UF's
$15 million request had hopefully get bipartisan (Gators and Seminoles)
support.



Check out the plan in the link.  You can also see the link and a note from
President Barron at the Advocate for Florida State website under the "President's
Message".



Thoughts?  Comments?


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It looks good to me.

Who is selling it to the politicians and press?

No money for FSU was included in the governor's budget.

Not a peep out of the newspapers, which is contrary to UF.
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Epiphany, I echo NoleOne's post on this.  Where is the press?  I think this is great, but where's the support?
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I agree, you all.  There needs to be more press on this specifically.  I know that Barron presented this to the Leon County delegation the other day.  Here is a link to that story.

Going directly to the delegation meeting is a GREAT way for legislators to see the support in their communities for FSU.  In the story, Barron mentions sending this report to Scott.  Maybe Barron/Kathleen Daly will be going to specific lawmakers as session gets underway.

Feel free to set up a meeting with your legislator/their staffs to let them know you support this plan.

Link: FSU urge Leon lawmakers to support funding request2/5 9:32 PM | IP: Logged
Looks like the PR department is starting to get this out there.  This story was on the front pages of the FSU and FSU News websites.  It's a start.

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Let the wheeling and dealing begin!  Thank you Senators Thrasher and Negron for being committed to fairness.  Now the House needs to get on board with this idea.  Speaker Weatherford and other House members...please set up!

Seminole Nation...send some strong, nicely worded emails to Sen. Galvano, especially if you are in his district, and make sure he is aware of your feelings on this issue.

http://www.flsenate.gov/Senators/s26

This post was edited on 2/6 11:33 AM by epiphany10


Link: Scott's $15 million to UF to spark showdown2/6 11:27 AM | IP: Logged
Excellent.  I want FSU to fight hard for this support.  The dominance of UF in this area is at an end.

GO 'NOLES! 
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This quote really stood out for me. The uf agenda is clear, and they're willing to step over everyone in order to achieve it. This is nothing more than an attempt to climb a few spots in the rankings, so the uf chest thumping can continue for years to come.

"We need to look at the University of Florida for what it is and the potential for what it has," Galvano said. "With regard to the other universities, to try to create funding just to create equity within a single year budget shouldn't be the goal. If we have an opportunity to get that world class university ranking as a state we should do it."
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I posted this on the Tribal Council:

Good balanced article from the Miami Herald about UF's latest money grab attempt.

This UF clown, Galvano, is basically saying that the state's higher education policy should be to give money to one flagship (UF) so that it can become elite and exclude the other (FSU).

If you are in this UF clown's district, please start sending him letters and e-mails.

"Galvano, R-Bradenton, chairs the Senate Education Appropriations Committee. Oh yeah, he also graduated from UF in 1989, FSU's rival. He said after the meeting that he supports the $15 million boost for UF and that he wasn't interested in spreading the bonuses to other schools, at least this year."

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2013/02/uf-fsu-rivalry-heats-up-in-state-senate.html#storylink=cpy

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2013/02/uf-fsu-rivalry-heats-up-in-state-senate.html
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Originally posted by NoleOne:
I posted this on the Tribal Council:

Good balanced article from the Miami Herald about UF's latest money grab attempt.

This UF clown, Galvano, is basically saying that the state's higher education policy should be to give money to one flagship (UF) so that it can become elite and exclude the other (FSU).

If you are in this UF clown's district, please start sending him letters and e-mails.

"Galvano, R-Bradenton, chairs the Senate Education Appropriations Committee. Oh yeah, he also graduated from UF in 1989, FSU's rival. He said after the meeting that he supports the $15 million boost for UF and that he wasn't interested in spreading the bonuses to other schools, at least this year."

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2013/02/uf-fsu-rivalry-heats-up-in-state-senate.html#storylink=cpy
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2013/02/uf-fsu-rivalry-heats-up-in-state-senate.html

That's great, NoleOne!  Thanks for helping get the word out!

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Originally posted by TheBurningSpear:
This quote really stood out for me. The uf agenda is clear, and they're willing to step over everyone in order to achieve it. This is nothing more than an attempt to climb a few spots in the rankings, so the uf chest thumping can continue for years to come.

"We need to look at the University of Florida for what it is and the potential for what it has," Galvano said. "With regard to the other universities, to try to create funding just to create equity within a single year budget shouldn't be the goal. If we have an opportunity to get that world class university ranking as a state we should do it."
We've been doing that every year for the last 108 years and UF has failed to achieve top 10 status. Not sure how year 109 would be any different. 
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Originally posted by Democratic Nole:


Originally posted by TheBurningSpear:
This quote really stood out for me. The uf agenda is clear, and they're willing to step over everyone in order to achieve it. This is nothing more than an attempt to climb a few spots in the rankings, so the uf chest thumping can continue for years to come.

"We need to look at the University of Florida for what it is and the potential for what it has," Galvano said. "With regard to the other universities, to try to create funding just to create equity within a single year budget shouldn't be the goal. If we have an opportunity to get that world class university ranking as a state we should do it."
We've been doing that every year for the last 108 years and UF has failed to achieve top 10 status. Not sure how year 109 would be any different. 


That's because UF doesn't just compete with FSU.  UF has to outpace the other 15 or so public schools that are ranked ahead of it.
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Originally posted by DolphinsHeatGators:


Originally posted by Democratic Nole:


Originally posted by TheBurningSpear:
This quote really stood out for me. The uf agenda is clear, and they're willing to step over everyone in order to achieve it. This is nothing more than an attempt to climb a few spots in the rankings, so the uf chest thumping can continue for years to come.

"We need to look at the University of Florida for what it is and the potential for what it has," Galvano said. "With regard to the other universities, to try to create funding just to create equity within a single year budget shouldn't be the goal. If we have an opportunity to get that world class university ranking as a state we should do it."
We've been doing that every year for the last 108 years and UF has failed to achieve top 10 status. Not sure how year 109 would be any different. 


That's because UF doesn't just compete with FSU.  UF has to outpace the other 15 or so public schools that are ranked ahead of it.

It has to? Well, then, doesn't FSU have to outpace the 35 or so schools ahead of it?

UF competes with FSU for resources most directly. Both schools compete with everyone else in the globe for students, grants, publications, etc. Have no idea how this is an argument for state resource appropriations.
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The following is a quote from UF President Machen in the Miami Times/Herald:

"It is time for the Legislature to recognize that performance counts and other institutions should not be equally rewarded unless they can compete on the same level," Machen said in an email to the Times/Herald. "Equal reward for equal performance. Just look at the data."

So in other words, since UF has had a financial headstart on the other public universities by taking the lion's share of state funding for decades, which gave them this competitive advantage, we should base future funding on that advantage.  

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/02/06/3220780/uf-fsu-face-off-over-gov-rick.html#storylink=cpy
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Originally posted by GarnetHaze:
The following is a quote from UF President Machen in the Miami Times/Herald:

"It is time for the Legislature to recognize that performance counts and other institutions should not be equally rewarded unless they can compete on the same level," Machen said in an email to the Times/Herald. "Equal reward for equal performance. Just look at the data."

So in other words, since UF has had a financial headstart on the other public universities by taking the lion's share of state funding for decades, which gave them this competitive advantage, we should base future funding on that advantage.  

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/02/06/3220780/uf-fsu-face-off-over-gov-rick.html#storylink=cpy

Exactly.

Talk about an empty argument....but he'll likely win over the support of every UF grad in the legislature with that crap.
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Originally posted by TheBrickhouse:







Originally posted by GarnetHaze:
The following is a quote from UF President Machen in the Miami Times/Herald:

"It is time for the Legislature to recognize that performance counts and other institutions should not be equally rewarded unless they can compete on the same level," Machen said in an email to the Times/Herald. "Equal reward for equal performance. Just look at the data."

So in other words, since UF has had a financial headstart on the other public universities by taking the lion's share of state funding for decades, which gave them this competitive advantage, we should base future funding on that advantage.  



Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/02/06/3220780/uf-fsu-face-off-over-gov-rick.html#storylink=cpy




Exactly.

Talk about an empty argument....but he'll likely win over the support of every UF grad in the legislature with that crap.




Yes.  

Here is a summary of the historical UF political strategy:

(1) Get the Florida legislature to give UF all academic/research generating programs.
(2) Get the Florida legislature to prevent FSU from obtaining academic/research generating programs acquired by UF using the argument that they are wasteful duplication of academic programs and facilities.
(3) Get the Florida legislature to allow UF to duplicate academic/research generating programs existing at FSU even if they are wasteful duplication of academic programs and facilities.
(4) Get the Florida legislature to take academic/research generating programs away from FSU and then argue that FSU's efforts to reacquire them would be wasteful duplication of academic programs and facilities.
(5) Get the Florida legislature to give UF an extra slice of the annual recurring financial pie (based on the academic/research generating programs that only UF has received) so that UF receives double the taxpayer money of any other university on an annual basis.
(6) Get the Florida legislature to give UF extra nonrecurring money so that UF historically has received about ten times more nonrecurring taxpayer money than FSU to build up its facilities and research-generating infrastructure.  
(7)  Prevent FSU from obtaining adequate recurring funding from the Florida legislature so that FSU cannot reasonably fund its existing programs.
(8)  Prevent FSU from obtaining adequate nonrecurring funding from the Florida legislature so that FSU cannot build facilities to generate research.

Present day: 

Miraculously, UF, the institution that has used dirty politics to receive ten times the taxpayer money for facilities, twice the annual taxpayer money on an annual basis recurring basis, and a monopoly on nearly all research generating programs "performs" better than FSU!  Imagine that!  Machen:  "UF performs better!  UF performs better!" 

Of course UF performs better.  If you cut off the blood supply of your competitor, then you are going to perform better.  If you give yourself a Ferrari to drive and make sure that your competitor gets a Camry, then your car is going to perform better.

And the final political death blow:

Get the Florida legislature to pass that a law that would allow UF to permanently eliminate all competition from FSU by designating UF as the sole "flagship" school of the State of Florida.  Every grant would go to UF first.  Every facility would go to UF first.  Every academic would go to UF first.  Every dollar of taxpayer money would go to UF first. 

Every attempt by FSU to improve the quality of education of FSU students, to generate research dollars, to generate jobs, to improve the value of a FSU degree, would get second class treament because the stated policy of Florida higher education is that UF is the "flagship" university and that any effort by FSU to improve itself is wasteful duplication of academic programs and facilities.

Complete and total garbage.  Equally fund the two Florida flagships, FSU and UF, and then let the chips fall where they may.  It's healthy for our state to have two competing institutions on equal footing.

This post was edited on 2/8 10:04 AM by NoleOne

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Equally funding the two flagships?

Honestly, FSU will do MORE with the invested state dollar than UF, according to U.S. News. 

Why should Florida State receive only what UF gets?  We should get more.
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Originally posted by TheBrickhouse:

Originally posted by DolphinsHeatGators:


Originally posted by Democratic Nole:


Originally posted by TheBurningSpear:
This quote really stood out for me. The uf agenda is clear, and they're willing to step over everyone in order to achieve it. This is nothing more than an attempt to climb a few spots in the rankings, so the uf chest thumping can continue for years to come.

"We need to look at the University of Florida for what it is and the potential for what it has," Galvano said. "With regard to the other universities, to try to create funding just to create equity within a single year budget shouldn't be the goal. If we have an opportunity to get that world class university ranking as a state we should do it."
We've been doing that every year for the last 108 years and UF has failed to achieve top 10 status. Not sure how year 109 would be any different. 


That's because UF doesn't just compete with FSU.  UF has to outpace the other 15 or so public schools that are ranked ahead of it.

It has to? Well, then, doesn't FSU have to outpace the 35 or so schools ahead of it?

UF competes with FSU for resources most directly. Both schools compete with everyone else in the globe for students, grants, publications, etc. Have no idea how this is an argument for state resource appropriations.


FSU has to fight for what it wants and not wait for UF to be aggressive in implementing its goals.  
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Originally posted by Mac_Nole:
Equally funding the two flagships?

Honestly, FSU will do MORE with the invested state dollar than UF, according to U.S. News. 

Why should Florida State receive only what UF gets?  We should get more.

Its because FSU doesn't fight for what it wants on its own.  It usually waits for UF to fight for it followed by many of the FSU advocates complaining about UF getting greedy.  THEN the same FSU advocates will jump on the same "greedy" bandwagon to milk it for what its worth.

This post was edited on 2/9 12:43 AM by DolphinsHeatGators

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Originally posted by DolphinsHeatGators:


Originally posted by TheBrickhouse:

Originally posted by DolphinsHeatGators:


Originally posted by Democratic Nole:


Originally posted by TheBurningSpear:
This quote really stood out for me. The uf agenda is clear, and they're willing to step over everyone in order to achieve it. This is nothing more than an attempt to climb a few spots in the rankings, so the uf chest thumping can continue for years to come.

"We need to look at the University of Florida for what it is and the potential for what it has," Galvano said. "With regard to the other universities, to try to create funding just to create equity within a single year budget shouldn't be the goal. If we have an opportunity to get that world class university ranking as a state we should do it."
We've been doing that every year for the last 108 years and UF has failed to achieve top 10 status. Not sure how year 109 would be any different. 


That's because UF doesn't just compete with FSU.  UF has to outpace the other 15 or so public schools that are ranked ahead of it.

It has to? Well, then, doesn't FSU have to outpace the 35 or so schools ahead of it?

UF competes with FSU for resources most directly. Both schools compete with everyone else in the globe for students, grants, publications, etc. Have no idea how this is an argument for state resource appropriations.


FSU has to fight for what it wants and not wait for UF to be aggressive in implementing its goals.  

Of course.

And we fight for the same state resources, like we always have.
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So UF "fought" for this payout? From what I am reading, the bald idiot in the Capitol wants to dole it out to keep Machen in place. If this is something that was "fought" for, I don't think you want many people finding out what kind of deals were being done.
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So, apparently it's not just $15. It's actually $75 million ($15 every year for five years).
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Originally posted by Mister_Tog:
So, apparently it's not just $15. It's actually $75 million ($15 every year for five years).

Yeah. ?A one time $15M grant isn't enough to hire a bunch of good professors/researchers and keep them for very long.

This post was edited on 2/13 1:19 PM by DolphinsHeatGators

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Looks like this year's preeminence bill is starting to move through the process and, thankfully, FSU seems to be included in the discussion.
The Democrat did a status update on the bill (see link).

I don't know the bill numbers for the House version of the bill or the companion bill in the Senate but I'll keep my eyes peeled.

Keep on letting your legislators know how important FSU is to you!

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Originally posted by epiphany10:
Looks like this year's preeminence bill is starting to move through the process and, thankfully, FSU seems to be included in the discussion.
The Democrat did a status update on the bill (see link).

I don't know the bill numbers for the House version of the bill or the companion bill in the Senate but I'll keep my eyes peeled.

Keep on letting your legislators know how important FSU is to you!
They are SB 1720 and HB 7057.

Read about them in the current FSU Legisletter. It also listed these as criteria:

* At least a top 50 ranking in at least two national public university publications (obviously US News, not sure which others are included but we rank top 50 per CMUP as well and likely others)
* An average weighted GPA of 4.0 or higher and average SAT of 1800 or higher for incoming freshmen (I assume this is enrolled and not accepted...not sure, seems iffy per FSU CDS, if we only included FALL students we'd likely easily meet this metric)
* A freshmen retention rate of 90% or higher (91% per FSU CDS)
* A six year graduation rate of 70% or higher (74% per FSU CDS)
* At least six faculty members of the national academies (8)
* At least $200M in annual research expenditures (using 2010-2011 data, seems stagnated at just barely over $200M per FSU)
* At least $150M in annual research expenditures in nonmedical sciences (using 2010-2011 data, ~$160M per FSU)
* At least a top 100 ranking for research expenditures in 5 STEM fields (I imagine we do this fairly easily, no link)
* At least 100 patents awarded by US Patent and Trademark Office in the last 3 years (FSU had 36 patents issued in 2010-2011, if we had roughly that many in the other 2 years we just barely squirt by, per FSU)
* At least 400 doctoral degrees awarded annually (over 400 in 2010-2011 and 2011-2012 per FSU's website)
* At least 200 post doctoral appointees annually (~250 from 2005-2009 per CMUP)
* An endowment of at least $500M ($498M per NACUBO)

It also stipulates the university meeting the most criteria develop what appears to be a full-scale degree-granting online-only branch of its university. The university meeting the second-most criteria is to create a master's program in "cloud virtualization", hire members of the national academies and implement an entrepreneur-in-residence program. However, these stipulations for both schools are "subject to funding." I believe I read somewhere (can't find the exact quote at this time) that FSU met 11 of the 12 and I assume UF meets all 12.

There appears to be no tangible benefit to being declared a Preeminent University. There is no guaranteed funding increase. There is no longer the ability to raise tuition accordingly (this aspect was left out this year because it was the sole reason the bill was vetoed last year by Scott). While Scott has mentioned earmarking $15M for UF he has - to my knowledge - not yet earmarked $15M for FSU. I'm definitely in favor of the bill, just fearful it's more bark than bite.

FSU is clearly the second best state university in Florida. That's to say, we're clearly behind UF in most of these metrics but clearly ahead of the rest of the state schools, too. We need to get our sh*t together, though. Barely (not) meeting roughly half of the metrics is worrisome. I know much of it has to do with our med school being new with a limited mission, sharing engineering with FAM and not having professional programs like Veterinary, Dentistry, Pharmacy and even programs like Physician's Assistant and Physical Therapy as well as their state-wide IFAS (and their associated grad students, research and university philanthropy) but I don't much care for the excuses. This state needs two prominent universities like Cal/UCLA or UT/TAMU but FSU needs to hold up its end. I believe the quality of education and the aptitude of the students is quite good, but we don't put our best foot forward in many metrics (endowment, research, national academy members, student-faculty ratio, national merit scholars - I know why we de-emphasized this, etc). Hopefully this bill would allow additional funding to get us where we want/need to be in the next 10, 20 or 30 years.
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Originally posted by NoleOne:
I'm just flabbergasted that we have a governor who has stripped higher education of state funding by reasoning that he is cutting wasteful spending, but he is now on board with the rationale that the one university in Florida that needs money the least and the one university that has been pilfering the state coffers to the detriment of other state universities for decades needs even more money so that it can move up in the rankings of one magazine.

Absolutely disgusting.

Our governor's new stated higher education policy is to make UF elite and starve FSU.

That moron sure knows how to endear himself to Tallahassee.



I guess he figured most of the Tallahasseeans already didn't like him, so might as well have the whole town not like you (except for the Gators living here). 

This past fall, he was at one of the FSU games sitting in a boosters box. My seats are about 15 rows below the boxes, and the one he was in was directly behind me. At one point, he stood up for several minutes waving to the crowd. I had a bottled water with me and so badly wanted to nail his behind. I hope he meets the same fate as his newly departed Lt. Gov.  
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It looks like our concerns may have been heard. Well done!

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/03/28/3312133/financial-picture-brighter-for.html

"House and Senate leaders say they plan to boost university funding by over $100 million this year, in addition to restoring a $300 million cut from university budgets last year. Some of the money will be tied to university performance.

The University of Florida and Florida State University would receive even more money, as much as $30 million, as part of a proposal to grant them special status as the state's top-ranked institutions."


Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/03/28/3312133/financial-picture-brighter-for.html#storylink=cpy"
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From the article:

"The Senate's budget plan includes $15 million for each school. The House would provide Florida State $12.5 million and Florida $30 million, half of which would be to increase the number of online courses, another Weatherford priority."

Sounds like I probably prefer the Senate version.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/03/28/3312133/financial-picture-brighter-for.html#storylink=cpy
3/31 9:17 AM | IP: Logged
I like the Senate plan much better.  Unless the House plan is amended to give FSU $30 million and UF $12 million then I'd be for that more excellent variation.
3/31 12:25 PM | IP: Logged
Also in the article:

"House Speaker Will Weatherford, R-Wesley Chapel, continues to suggest that Polytechnic may be better off as a branch of another school instead of the state's 12th public university. So far he has only floated the idea, but language to strip away the school's independence could be written into the state budget."


Perhaps we can convince Speaker Weatherford that placing Florida Poly under FAMU's umbrella (instead of USF's) makes the best sense? Then, FAMU could open up an independent engineering school in Lakeland and perhaps move their Science & Technology, Pharmacy, and Environment schools and all other STEM assets out of Tallahassee.   

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/03/28/3312133/financial-picture-brighter-for.html#storylink=cpy"
4/1 9:06 AM | IP: Logged
Has anyone heard anything new about this bill?
4/9 4:50 PM | IP: Logged
FYI....

The preeminence bill passed last Friday. Governor Scott will need to make a decision on whether to sign or veto the bill this week. The Advocate for FSU website is accordingly asking supporters to contact the governor: http://www.advocateforfloridastate.fsu.edu/site/PageServer?pagename=deploymenthome
4/15 1:22 PM | IP: Logged
Thanks for posting this.

Are there any specifics regarding how this affects funding? The language of the bill seemed rather open-ended. I also noticed that there were different tiers depending on whether you met 11 or 12 of the criteria.
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