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       Re: The War Room - FSU, ACC & conference expansion/realignment - c691027 11/30 10:16 AM (show all)  Views 22015
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Originally posted by AllNoles:
The arrogant belief that you can continue to succeed forever without adapting to the world around you is a very dangerous one.  It's what leads to bohemoths falling.  Not that it's totally on point, but look at once world beating businesses who are about to go under.  Who would have thought 20 years ago that Sears would be about to fail?

The analysis is not all that different.  The world changed.  The market changed.  But Sears didn't change, at least not enough.  It made decisions for years based partially on the assumption that, well, it was Sears.  That was not enough.

I love FSU.  I think FSU has an amazing brand value.  I think it should remain at the forefront of college football, as well as other sports.  But to think FSU is going to remain on top just because it's FSU, even though it's in an increasingly less competitive arena and is falling further and further behind in the money battle, is ridiculous.  FSU can remain on top, but it's not assured a spot there.  It has to work and adapt and always be innovative.  It has not looked that way in years.



It is all about the financial. Not only is FSU behind. We are behind by ridiculous proportions.



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12/1 2:07 PM | IP: Logged



Originally posted by AllNoles:
The arrogant belief that you can continue to succeed forever without adapting to the world around you is a very dangerous one.  It's what leads to bohemoths falling.  Not that it's totally on point, but look at once world beating businesses who are about to go under.  Who would have thought 20 years ago that Sears would be about to fail?

The analysis is not all that different.  The world changed.  The market changed.  But Sears didn't change, at least not enough.  It made decisions for years based partially on the assumption that, well, it was Sears.  That was not enough.

I love FSU.  I think FSU has an amazing brand value.  I think it should remain at the forefront of college football, as well as other sports.  But to think FSU is going to remain on top just because it's FSU, even though it's in an increasingly less competitive arena and is falling further and further behind in the money battle, is ridiculous.  FSU can remain on top, but it's not assured a spot there.  It has to work and adapt and always be innovative.  It has not looked that way in years.



Great post! BTTT
11/29 4:49 PM | IP: Logged


Originally posted by nutmegnole:



Originally posted by AllNoles:
The arrogant belief that you can continue to succeed forever without adapting to the world around you is a very dangerous one.  It's what leads to bohemoths falling.  Not that it's totally on point, but look at once world beating businesses who are about to go under.  Who would have thought 20 years ago that Sears would be about to fail?

The analysis is not all that different.  The world changed.  The market changed.  But Sears didn't change, at least not enough.  It made decisions for years based partially on the assumption that, well, it was Sears.  That was not enough.

I love FSU.  I think FSU has an amazing brand value.  I think it should remain at the forefront of college football, as well as other sports.  But to think FSU is going to remain on top just because it's FSU, even though it's in an increasingly less competitive arena and is falling further and further behind in the money battle, is ridiculous.  FSU can remain on top, but it's not assured a spot there.  It has to work and adapt and always be innovative.  It has not looked that way in years.
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If there is another exit from the ACC this coming week as rumored, it will trigger every ACC school with football or TV market power to immediately campaign HARD with the SEC and/or the Big12. The contestants in this beauty pagent would involve FSU, Clem, VaTech, GaTech, UVa, BC, UM, Pitt, Syracuse, UNC, NCSt. The next mayhem commercial may feature the ACC. ND also reconsiders if this happens. $50M buyout also fails, dropping to the prior $20M.

We have no reason to expect the SEC to offer us. The SEC has already demonstrated a clear business plan on expansion: increase their geographic footprint and TV market power. The SEC is already covered in FL, and we add little monetary value, just good competition (which is not an SEC problem). Expect the SEC to ignore us and Clemson in favor of trying to get into N Carolina, Virginia, maybe bring GT back into the fold to nail down Atlanta, etc. Our shot seems to depend on Bama campaigning for us and maybe political influence in FL being put on UF. Long odds on that in my opinion.

We appear to add great financial value to the Big12 by being the "best available player" to get them into all of the FL TV markets, and I expect that is where we end up, but...

What if we bolt for the Big12 with other ACC schools to form what would become an eastern division of the conference, along with WVa and some dregs from the current Big12; then the PAC12 revisits expansion and successfully raids Texas and Oklahoma schools out of the Big12 after we make the move? We pay to get out of the ACC only to end up as bad or worse than we are now in a conference with little TV marketing power. If that happens, a second realignment among the remaining ACC, Big East and Big 12 schools might occur. Regardless, the long standing BCS schools still in the ACC, Big East AND Big12 at that point would be "the biggest losers" in college football realignment. We might be the biggest loser of all, given our current stature and history over the past 25 years.

Best case scenario: We get an SEC invite (unlikely I fear).
Second best case scenario: a Big12 invite, the conference holds together, and maybe gets ND in some capacity.
Worst case: described above or for some reason not even the Big12 invites us.
12/1 2:40 PM | IP: Logged

The Big 12 is not going to loose anybody prior to 2026 and at that point I woul assume the dye will be cast on where everybody is going to stay.  Big 12 makes the most since for us.  I think we need to negotiate the move with them asap to get us the best deal possible.  I would think the Big 12 will want at least one(Clemson) or three more to come with us(Clemson, Virginia Tech and NC State)
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and maybe gets ND in some capacity (the ACC)

Why on earth would ND ever do that, especially after this year? They need no one, and now will not
for the forseeable future. Make all the money they do and keep it all.
ND to ACC in football is likely toast, considering how this year played out. They're definitely overrated, but it's
been a charmed season (nice work OU at home). They have just set themselves up for years to come unless rules
are changed that coercively requires them to be in a Conference.
They need no one's money and TV contracts.
12/4 12:06 AM | IP: Logged


Originally posted by BlackDrinkSinger:

and maybe gets ND in some capacity (the ACC)

Why on earth would ND ever do that, especially after this year? They need no one, and now will not
for the forseeable future. Make all the money they do and keep it all.
ND to ACC in football is likely toast, considering how this year played out. They're definitely overrated, but it's
been a charmed season (nice work OU at home). They have just set themselves up for years to come unless rules
are changed that coercively requires them to be in a Conference.
They need no one's money and TV contracts.
With a playoff coming they need a conference, I have no idea what conference but they will get left out in the cold without joining somewhere.  The rules are changing and being an independent won't get them squat.
12/4 12:25 AM | IP: Logged


Originally posted by AllNoles:
The arrogant belief that you can continue to succeed forever without adapting to the world around you is a very dangerous one.  It's what leads to bohemoths falling.  Not that it's totally on point, but look at once world beating businesses who are about to go under.  Who would have thought 20 years ago that Sears would be about to fail?

The analysis is not all that different.  The world changed.  The market changed.  But Sears didn't change, at least not enough.  It made decisions for years based partially on the assumption that, well, it was Sears.  That was not enough.

I love FSU.  I think FSU has an amazing brand value.  I think it should remain at the forefront of college football, as well as other sports.  But to think FSU is going to remain on top just because it's FSU, even though it's in an increasingly less competitive arena and is falling further and further behind in the money battle, is ridiculous.  FSU can remain on top, but it's not assured a spot there.  It has to work and adapt and always be innovative.  It has not looked that way in years.

Well said.  I have contended this for some time yet many tend to believe that we will be able to live off of our past forever.  History has shown in countless ways that this is a dangerous way of thinking.
11/29 3:47 PM | IP: Logged

All I can tell you was in my personal situation it was brought up by several coaches.  Maybe my situation was unique, but I doubt it.  I still ended up selecting Florida State and I am glad I did, but the strength of the SEC for track was brought to my attention by several coaches. There are numerous factors involved in what caused me to choose Florida State and I am sure the same could be said for any 17 year old kid being recruited by large universities.  Regardless, what you may think competition is typically going to be a one of the larger factors in most kids choices in my oppinion. 


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Rancekay your 100% correct. Listen to the recruits talk about why they selected their schools and the very best ones will include the level of competition in the equation. It's why the SEC overall is stronger. The current view is thats where the best athletes are playing. One more "C" I would add. The coaches. And for the most part, the best are where the cash is. More cash = higher expectations and standards.
11/29 4:07 PM | IP: Logged
The arrogant belief that you can continue to succeed forever without adapting to the world around you is a very dangerous one.  It's what leads to bohemoths falling.  Not that it's totally on point, but look at once world beating businesses who are about to go under.  Who would have thought 20 years ago that Sears would be about to fail?

The analysis is not all that different.  The world changed.  The market changed.  But Sears didn't change, at least not enough.  It made decisions for years based partially on the assumption that, well, it was Sears.  That was not enough.

I love FSU.  I think FSU has an amazing brand value.  I think it should remain at the forefront of college football, as well as other sports.  But to think FSU is going to remain on top just because it's FSU, even though it's in an increasingly less competitive arena and is falling further and further behind in the money battle, is ridiculous.  FSU can remain on top, but it's not assured a spot there.  It has to work and adapt and always be innovative.  It has not looked that way in years.
11/29 10:29 AM | IP: Logged
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