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Spring Practice Observations (9:35 p.m. Wednesday) - dcreeves 3/27 9:37 PM (show all)  Views 7618
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Maybe its better for this offense that Winston doesn't know the entire playbook.  IMO Jimbo's playbook is TOO big, many times last season I wondered what our identity was -we were either running a power I, option, spread, zone read.  Hopefully JW's talent is too much for Jimbo to keep on the bench and Jimbo matches his gameplanning with what JW does well.  So what if CT knows the entire playbook, EJ knew the playbook inside and out last year and I was unimpressed with his overall performance. 
3/28 4:32 PM | IP: Logged

IMO Trickett is the man to beat this year...and I love that the competition will improve everyone's game. 
3/28 2:45 PM | IP: Logged
Fantastic practice report.  Thanks!  (no complaints here).
3/28 1:24 PM | IP: Logged
Oh my gosh people! We're only like 3-4 days into Spring ball and you want updates for every living body on the field and a minute by minute who's-in-the-lead QB depth chart update. Everybody relax.As much as we would all like to see that star recruit explode onto the scene and lead us to the NC, this will not be a one bad day and he gets demoted thing. They most likely won't even change the depth chart until after the Spring game.

DC, you are the man! Thanks so much for all the incredible updates!

It's all we can ask for......if you don't agree, go see the practices yourself.
3/28 1:13 PM | IP: Logged

Good report. Thank you, sir!
3/28 12:50 PM | IP: Logged

Good report, DC.  Some of you will complain about anything.

As for the QB battle, Jimbo will start the guy each week that he thinks gives FSU the best chance to win that week.  That will be his philosophy in week 1 and in week 14.  That will be his philosophy this year and each year hereafter.  Deal with it.
3/28 1:18 PM | IP: Logged
Wait..  did I just see some UK fan posting a link to his real estate website?  What a sad attempt at forging a career..  Thought it was just chinese dudes trying to sell sun glasses on the main board.
3/28 10:54 AM | IP: Logged
So the walk ons don't get their own paragraphs?  I am disappoint.
3/28 8:55 AM | IP: Logged


Originally posted by n0lesfan84:
So the walk ons don't get their own paragraphs?  I am disappoint.
I'm still waiting on my Justin Bright update, IT NEVER CAME!!!!!!!
3/28 9:01 AM | IP: Logged


Originally posted by semipohl:


Originally posted by n0lesfan84:
So the walk ons don't get their own paragraphs?  I am disappoint.
I'm still waiting on my Justin Bright update, IT NEVER CAME!!!!!!!

Yea, it will be called the 85 Scholarship Player Spring EXPLOSION of observations.
3/28 9:02 AM | IP: Logged



Originally posted by dcreeves:





Originally posted by semipohl:





Originally posted by n0lesfan84:
So the walk ons don't get their own paragraphs?  I am disappoint.


I'm still waiting on my Justin Bright update, IT NEVER CAME!!!!!!!



Yea, it will be called the 85 Scholarship Player Spring EXPLOSION of observations.



Or 81.  But who's counting? 
3/28 10:03 AM | IP: Logged
I want Winston or Coker to start but I think it's very obvious Trickett will start game one.

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3/28 10:41 AM | IP: Logged
Appreciate the reports. 

Link: FSU ALUM3/28 8:29 AM | IP: Logged
"While it's obvious he doesn't have the arm strength of the other three quarterbacks"

I am a little surprised to hear that.  IF you listen to some fans, they talk about how Trickett is a NFL type QB but just doesn't fit into our system.  I just hope one of the other 3 catches up on the gameplan and becomes more comfortable on the field so we have the best chance at a great season.  I take it from your write up that Coker could be falling a little behind right now due to the injury.  I hope he gets healthy fast because it sounds like he has the best overall tools to lead us to victory right now.  We really don't hear much about Maguire so I just assume he is fighting an uphill battle that he has basically no shot at winning.  
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Originally posted by ShadyNole13:
"While it's obvious he doesn't have the arm strength of the other three quarterbacks"

I am a little surprised to hear that.  IF you listen to some fans, they talk about how Trickett is a NFL type QB but just doesn't fit into our system.  I just hope one of the other 3 catches up on the gameplan and becomes more comfortable on the field so we have the best chance at a great season.  I take it from your write up that Coker could be falling a little behind right now due to the injury.  I hope he gets healthy fast because it sounds like he has the best overall tools to lead us to victory right now.  We really don't hear much about Maguire so I just assume he is fighting an uphill battle that he has basically no shot at winning.  
To be clear - it's not as if I'm saying he doesn't have the arm to win the job, etc. I'm just talking about the effort put behind a deep ball, simple as that. Seems like Maguire, Winston and Coker all can chuck it with a little less effort. 

Trickett is certainly capable.


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I'm with Sluggersdad on Maguire. He is consistently under reported.
3/28 8:14 AM | IP: Logged

Originally posted by Warchant User 3182:
I'm with Sluggersdad on Maguire. He is consistently under reported.
And the kid has great touch, solid arm strength, and a fantastic work ethic. He will battle.

3/28 10:32 PM | IP: Logged
Great stuff DC!!
3/28 7:59 AM | IP: Logged

Sounds like a spring full of battles. That's the way it should be every season, no one is guaranteed a starting spot. You've got to earn everything, that's what kids respond to. And it seems to be working pretty well for us right now. Truly an exciting time for all of us!
3/28 7:45 AM | IP: Logged
Sounds exciting, ready to go have a look myself next week.
3/28 7:53 AM | IP: Logged

GREAT GREAT STUFF!!  Cant wait for the spring game..  so much for not changing the defense.  this is the only thing that has me a little worried, new staff, new technique,new verbage and hand signals, new style of play.  Hope they dont throw it all at them the first year and we end up with 4 or 5 completely blown coverages each game.

Just what I thought on the QB's(at least it seems): tricket knows playbook and is pretty accuate(not looking to make the big mistake), #5 is probably catching eyes on big plays and ecsaping when needs to.  To bad about Coker, that foot seems to really be holding him back.

Thanks for all the info!!
3/28 8:12 AM | IP: Logged

Da_Dynasty,

You speak like you know this as fact. Trickett probably is the leader right now (4 practices in), but I think Winston wins the job. We will beat Pitt with Winston or Clint starting. Following Pitt is a bye then some cupcakes. If Jimbo can't get Winston ready with Spring, Summer, Fall Camp, and 3-4 games of experience then Jimbo isn't the QB coach we all think he is. Clint has about 2-3 games of total playing experience. Lets not act like Clint is seasoned. The small advantage Clint has in experience should more then be made up with talent from Winston. Last year I saw many teams have better seasons then us all playing GREEN QB's i.e. Stanford, A&M, Oregon, ND, and UF. If Winston is the talent we think he is and Jimbo the coach we think Winston should be taking snaps opening game vs Pitt.
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Originally posted by alwaysgr8fsu:

Da_Dynasty,

You speak like you know this as fact. Trickett probably is the leader right now (4 practices in), but I think Winston wins the job. We will beat Pitt with Winston or Clint starting. Following Pitt is a bye then some cupcakes. If Jimbo can't get Winston ready with Spring, Summer, Fall Camp, and 3-4 games of experience then Jimbo isn't the QB coach we all think he is. Clint has about 2-3 games of total playing experience. Lets not act like Clint is seasoned. The small advantage Clint has in experience should more then be made up with talent from Winston. Last year I saw many teams have better seasons then us all playing GREEN QB's i.e. Stanford, A&M, Oregon, ND, and UF. If Winston is the talent we think he is and Jimbo the coach we think Winston should be taking snaps opening game vs Pitt.



I think you are right on target.  We should beat Pitt pretty soundly with our Defense alone.  Get Winston thru spring, summer, and fall. like you said you get 3 or 4 warm up games before we enter our real schedule.  The coaches should be able to put him in a poistion to win games and then we get hopefully 3 years of a starting QB.  Why would you play Tricket or Coker one year, and then have Winston come in the following.  Get #5 the experience and let aim for NCG next year.
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Originally posted by stokes0667:
Why would you play Tricket or Coker one year, and then have Winston come in the following.  Get #5 the experience and let aim for NCG next year.
Clint was part of the 2010 class and took a redshirt. Coker was part of the 2011 class so both have more than one year left. With the talent we have on defense, and at WR and RB we don't need a QB to go out and try to win us games. We just need a QB who knows the assignments, knows where the ball is supposed to go and get it there. Do I think Winston can do all of that, I do, but we shouldn't just let him play just to get experience. He should only play if he wins the job.


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This is a tough choice for FSU.

We have a guy that knows he offense and has game experience in Trickett...but we have two very talented player behind him. 

Does Fisher go with the 'Ponder' experience...bite the bullet and throw somebody out there to gain experience...or do we start Trickett...then go with him for two more seasons (junior & senior year)?
3/28 9:48 AM | IP: Logged
I hope Trickett isn't the starter when the season starts. I'm sorry, but the kid brings no threat of the run to our offense and he has to get a runing start for the most part to throw the ball deep. I can't see Jameis or Coker sitting behind Trickett for two years. 
3/28 10:04 AM | IP: Logged
Question about Coker: When healthy, how is his arm strength compared to the other three?
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Not saying what Dynasty is telling us not to be true. If Jimbo is smart (And I think he is) no way he starts Clinit because he has been in the system lonoger. If Jameis doesn't know the offense like Clint call plays that Jameis knows well and slowly work the other part of the offense in. Football isn't as multiple as Jimbo tries to make it. Oregon, A&M, Clemson and other spread teams use a simple concept and run different plays from the same looks. Winston would be a star in those systems. Not saying FSU run spread only but use more of that if it will win you ball games. It is alarming if talk behind the scenes is Clint will start Week 1 because he knows Jimbo's Multiple PB better. Lets for once try being less multiple and run the plays that work until the defense stops it. I am telling you right now if Clint wins the job only cause he knows more of the plays in jimb's PB Jameis will not miss baseball games next spring only to sit the bench again in football. A talent like Jameis would kill it if he played in those spread systems so why not use that skill set here? When FSU was at it's best we ran the spread with Charlie and Chris. Those teams both won titles and looked damn good doing it.
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I don't know exactly what Da Dynasty heard but if there's something to hear then that's troubling.  There shouldn't be any indication at this point of who the QB might be.  
3/28 9:58 AM | IP: Logged

Originally posted by I-20 Nole:
I don't know exactly what Da Dynasty heard but if there's something to hear then that's troubling.  There shouldn't be any indication at this point of who the QB might be.  
When your starting QB moves on, the 2nd string QB is the one that typically gets the first nod 99.9% of the time. This is not a case where you have all on freshman coming in and you have no idea who is going to start, so I don't understand your comment about there shouldn't be any indication at this point. The indication is who gets the first shot running with the 1's, Clint does. That's all the indication you need.
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Originally posted by Da_Dynasty64:

Originally posted by I-20 Nole:
I don't know exactly what Da Dynasty heard but if there's something to hear then that's troubling.  There shouldn't be any indication at this point of who the QB might be.  
When your starting QB moves on, the 2nd string QB is the one that typically gets the first nod 99.9% of the time. This is not a case where you have all on freshman coming in and you have no idea who is going to start, so I don't understand your comment about there shouldn't be any indication at this point. The indication is who gets the first shot running with the 1's, Clint does. That's all the indication you need.
Oh I agree and I think Trickett will start.  Just thought you were saying somebody from the inside had told you "it's Trickett's to lose" and that sounds predetermined to me.  The job should be won, not lost IMO.  I'm worried that Trickett already has the job and won't lose it unless he plays absolutely horrible, which probably means losing a game.
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Originally posted by I-20 Nole:
I don't know exactly what Da Dynasty heard but if there's something to hear then that's troubling.  There shouldn't be any indication at this point of who the QB might be.  



Nobody is saying that.  Its just that Trickett is going to be VERY hard to beat out.  He is going to do everything right.  He is not going to make mistakes... the other guys will.  They other guys will really have to play well to beat him out especially for that first game.  My guess is though that once WInston gets on the field he will not be coming off.
3/28 10:19 AM | IP: Logged
Slide/spin to avoid the rush, laser arm, can execute the zone reads.... I like

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Originally posted by PANole1:
Slide/spin to avoid the rush, laser arm, can execute the zone reads.... I like

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Settle down, you must have missed the part he went against 3rd string defense.

He will get plenty of chances to win it, yesterday wasn't it.

Positive news, yes, but temper the exuberance. LOL
3/28 11:56 AM | IP: Logged

Originally posted by atgreek:


Originally posted by PANole1:
Slide/spin to avoid the rush, laser arm, can execute the zone reads.... I like

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Settle down, you must have missed the part he went against 3rd string defense.

He will get plenty of chances to win it, yesterday wasn't it.

Positive news, yes, but temper the exuberance. LOL

And as I mentioned above, the part where he is wearing a non contract jersey. I'm great at avoiding the rush when I know that no one can hit me.
3/28 11:58 AM | IP: Logged

Originally posted by alwaysgr8fsu:

Da_Dynasty,

You speak like you know this as fact. Trickett probably is the leader right now (4 practices in), but I think Winston wins the job. We will beat Pitt with Winston or Clint starting. Following Pitt is a bye then some cupcakes. If Jimbo can't get Winston ready with Spring, Summer, Fall Camp, and 3-4 games of experience then Jimbo isn't the QB coach we all think he is. Clint has about 2-3 games of total playing experience. Lets not act like Clint is seasoned. The small advantage Clint has in experience should more then be made up with talent from Winston. Last year I saw many teams have better seasons then us all playing GREEN QB's i.e. Stanford, A&M, Oregon, ND, and UF. If Winston is the talent we think he is and Jimbo the coach we think Winston should be taking snaps opening game vs Pitt.
I never said Clint was seasoned when it comes to playing time. I said that he knows the playbook better than any QB simply because he's been in the system the longest. Just passing along what I've been told, it's Clint's to lose.

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Originally posted by Da_Dynasty64:




Originally posted by alwaysgr8fsu:

Da_Dynasty,

You speak like you know this as fact. Trickett probably is the leader right now (4 practices in), but I think Winston wins the job. We will beat Pitt with Winston or Clint starting. Following Pitt is a bye then some cupcakes. If Jimbo can't get Winston ready with Spring, Summer, Fall Camp, and 3-4 games of experience then Jimbo isn't the QB coach we all think he is. Clint has about 2-3 games of total playing experience. Lets not act like Clint is seasoned. The small advantage Clint has in experience should more then be made up with talent from Winston. Last year I saw many teams have better seasons then us all playing GREEN QB's i.e. Stanford, A&M, Oregon, ND, and UF. If Winston is the talent we think he is and Jimbo the coach we think Winston should be taking snaps opening game vs Pitt.


I never said Clint was seasoned when it comes to playing time. I said that he knows the playbook better than any QB simply because he's been in the system the longest. Just passing along what I've been told, it's Clint's to lose.

This post was edited on 3/28 8:47 AM by Da_Dynasty64




Dynasty has an in and he's shown that. I believe him but I believe him because it's the most logical. Jimbo has shown that he is willing to forego a starter (Weatherford) for a Younger prospect(Ponder) if he feels it's the best option.

I think that's why Jimbo will rotate them and keep them in the order of how they came in. Trickett 1st, Coker 2nd and Winston 3rd and rotate them so nobody can speculate every little decision he makes.

I would really like Winston to win the job and we have 2 or 3 years of JW leading the Noles back to the BCS Title game or at least in Constant Contention.

I think he just has the talent and charisma that other talent wants to play with. I think the players gravitate to him more out of any of the 4 QB's just on GP.

I think he's the type of QB that Oline will want to block for.


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KMFS on punt returns? Hell to the MF yea!
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Originally posted by 71/BORASCH/06:
KMFS on punt returns? Hell to the MF yea!

Thank you for this.  
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Are people really complaining about not seeing a write up on Mcguire?  It' really nice Jimbo says it's a 4 person race and it's nice to see the staff here say he can throw well, but come on.  We all know he is 4th on the depth chart by a mile.  If he plays we had significant injury or 3 of the biggest busts of all time.  Let's not get sidetracked and mad if we don't hear about his day.
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Did Maguire even throw the ball?  You made no mention of him...

If he is really that far down the depth chart, he should transfer.  Doubt Jimbo would have signed someone that he felt had no chance to start, so there must be some talent.
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Why does Joyner always feel the need to light up his own teammates in practice? Haha I love the enthusiasm and am a huge Joyner fan, but didn't he really injure someone two years ago in the spring "decleating" them?

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Originally posted by NewYorkNole0109:
Why does Joyner always feel the need to light up his own teammates in practice? Haha I love the enthusiasm and am a huge Joyner fan, but didn't he really injure someone two years ago in the spring "decleating" them?

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Yes, that was Haulstead and he hasn't been the same since. Hoping this is the year he retruns to form.
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It's obvious to anyone that knows Jimbo that the QB who is most comfortable running his offense will start. Like it or not, Trickett will start on the road vs Pitt. I'm not saying he finishes the season as the starter, however, it's his to lose regardless of what you hear in post practice interviews.

Just setting your expectations so when you hear coming out of spring and going into the Fall that Trickett is getting all the first team reps you don't have a melt down.
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Originally posted by Da_Dynasty64:
It's obvious to anyone that knows Jimbo that the QB who is most comfortable running his offense will start. Like it or not, Trickett will start on the road vs Pitt. I'm not saying he finishes the season as the starter, however, it's his to lose regardless of what you hear in post practice interviews.

Just setting your expectations so when you hear coming out of spring and going into the Fall that Trickett is getting all the first team reps you don't have a melt down.
Dont be so sure.  I'm not nearly as connected as you are but I did have a connection with someone on the previous coaching staff and they were all but certain Winston was going to be starting this year.  That being said, this person is no longer on the staff however I agree with dc and dot when they say they truly believe this is an open competition and its nobody's job to lose at this point.
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Originally posted by Da_Dynasty64:
It's obvious to anyone that knows Jimbo that the QB who is most comfortable running his offense will start. Like it or not, Trickett will start on the road vs Pitt. I'm not saying he finishes the season as the starter, however, it's his to lose regardless of what you hear in post practice interviews.

Just setting your expectations so when you hear coming out of spring and going into the Fall that Trickett is getting all the first team reps you don't have a melt down.
I agree with you, I think there are going to be some people who are going to be really disappointed.
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Originally posted by Da_Dynasty64:
It's obvious to anyone that knows Jimbo that the QB who is most comfortable running his offense will start. Like it or not, Trickett will start on the road vs Pitt. I'm not saying he finishes the season as the starter, however, it's his to lose regardless of what you hear in post practice interviews.

Just setting your expectations so when you hear coming out of spring and going into the Fall that Trickett is getting all the first team reps you don't have a melt down.



Trickett is the #1 guy going into spring but I do not think he is the starter at Pitt.  I think Weatherford was more comfortable running the offense than Ponder but Ponder got the start.  
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Originally posted by Da_Dynasty64:
It's obvious to anyone that knows Jimbo that the QB who is most comfortable running his offense will start. Like it or not, Trickett will start on the road vs Pitt. I'm not saying he finishes the season as the starter, however, it's his to lose regardless of what you hear in post practice interviews.

Just setting your expectations so when you hear coming out of spring and going into the Fall that Trickett is getting all the first team reps you don't have a melt down.
Based on what you are saying, then there is NO battle for the starting position, just the backup positions. I guess all of it is lip service.

I hate that. I wish it was a true competition.
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Originally posted by Godzillaaa:

Originally posted by Da_Dynasty64:
It's obvious to anyone that knows Jimbo that the QB who is most comfortable running his offense will start. Like it or not, Trickett will start on the road vs Pitt. I'm not saying he finishes the season as the starter, however, it's his to lose regardless of what you hear in post practice interviews.

Just setting your expectations so when you hear coming out of spring and going into the Fall that Trickett is getting all the first team reps you don't have a melt down.
Based on what you are saying, then there is NO battle for the starting position, just the backup positions. I guess all of it is lip service.

I hate that. I wish it was a true competition.
That isn't exactly what I'm saying. As I passed along, it's Clint's to lose. If he goes out and just stinks the joint up then he won't start. As of right now that hasn't happened. There is a competition, but it's not a fierce battle like some are thinking. Coker isn't 100% so he isn't exactly battling for anything this spring. Sean will only start if the 3 QB's get hurt, so he isn't battling anything. Winston can take a big jump up on the depth chart from last year with a good spring, however, he will be right back to baseball afterwards while Trickett is out working  with WR's on timing and learning the playbook. I honestly believe if Winston will just focus on football and pass on Baseball he would be starting because he would have more time to work on the playbook and build timing with WR's.
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Here's the run down from Wednesday's practice, which was open to the media.

My overreaction disclaimer: Remember, this is one practice of 15, and it's the spring. While this is a glimpse into what's going on and gives us (and you guys) some idea on what's going on, I would keep one practice in perspective.

-- The teams were split up with the 1's and 3's and the 2's and 4's for most of the day, meaning Clint Trickett (1) and Jameis Winston (3) were often working in the same drills together while Jacob Coker (2) and Sean Maguire (4) were on another field working together.

Keep in mind, everything is a rotation. During the early flex period, all four rotated with the first team offense. Point being, the order they are in now, according to Fisher, is part of the plan to give them all a shot at different levels. How they practiced today is in no way an indicator that anyone has "taken a lead." I think the coaching staff is very much in the evaluation period and wouldn't have anyone way ahead of the other at this point, four practices in.

-- Trickett was accurate in drills for most of the day, even against the first-team defense. Every quarterback, Trickett included, had issues with decisions Fisher didn't like. While it's obvious he doesn't have the arm strength of the other three quarterbacks, Trickett looks in control out there and, in my opinion, looks the most comfortable out there (which is to be expected given his experience, his fourth spring at FSU).

-- Winston showed a big arm and escapability in offense-vs-defense work. On one play in particular - Winston felt the big rush from his right, then moved left and stepped up into a deep throw, hitting Rashad Greene in stride. He had a couple of other plays where he avoided the rush, turned on the jets and made a positive play out of it. On offense vs. defense Winston faced mostly third-team defenders with a few starters peppered in. Winston did get a chance to work with the first team offensive line in o-vs-d drills. He made some great throws on Wednesday.

-- Because of the foot injury he had coming into spring, Coker didn't seem 100 percent. He was relegated to shotgun snaps and was obviously told to stay in the pocket. Coker still flaunted what I think is the biggest arm of the group. Fisher said Coker is still feeling the effects and isn't concerned because Coker has put his athleticism on display before.

-- All three running backs (Wilder/Freeman/Pender) look to be in great shape. I really liked Mario Pender's shiftiness. He had a couple of miscues on pass protection, falling in line with a common young RB mistakes, but you can see why many figure Pender to step into the Chris Thompson, "home run threat" role.

-- The most impressive receiver on Wednesday was Greg Dent. He was lining up all over the field and caught every ball near him, created space with a defender around him to make catches, his routes seemed polished and he made a handful of tough catches. It's way too early, but he's moving up my board as a breakout candidate in 2013.

-- Willie Haulstead is in much better shape than he was last season. He seems to be in a position to get back into the rotation.

Defense/special teams

-- The first thing I noticed is that there's lots of activity in the new Pruitt scheme. DB's go from the box to play like a safety and cover a deep half of the field, darting back just before the snap. Defensive ends Giorgio Newberry and Chris Casher stood up to cover a tight end on a couple of plays. The defensive lineman line up in different order across from snap to snap. Fisher said the new look has been a challenge for the defense. While the coaching staff has downplayed big changes to the defense in 2013, it shouldn't be hard to pick out some different looks rather quickly.

-- Lamarcus Joyner plays like you'd expect at cornerback - extremely, extremely physical and lightning fast. He made that clear from the outset, decleating a walk-on who caught a ball out of the flat.

Joyner got a lot of work against Dent and is also playing a lot of the "star" position, which was the inside/slot nickel cornerback in the defense when FSU goes to three cornerbacks. But there was some coverage rust when it comes playing the ball in the air and on some technique - Dent made a great play on an underthrown ball vs. Joyner who couldn't recover and Dent also beat him on an inside route fairly easily - but I still believe Joyner is going to be great at CB.

When Joyner slides into the 'star' spot in nickel, PJ Williams was getting the first team snaps at cornerback along with Keelin Smith on the other side. (Remember, Darby/Waisome/Hunter are out for the spring). Williams had a couple of nice battles with Kelvin Benjamin in one-on-one drills.

-- Karlos Williams was moved around (as mentioned in the story we posted today), playing safety and some "Money" linebacker - the linebacker in a six-DB dime package.

-- Breaking news: Telvin Smith likes to talk when he's on the field (and off the field). Smith looks comfortable in the scheme. In fact, during the practice, a couple of different upperclassmen came up to Smith to ask him about terminology and responsibility in the scheme and it seems like Smith didn't skip a beat. That's a good sign from FSU's starting middle linebacker.

-- Terrance Smith is still working as the starting strong side linebacker.

-- Jacobbi McDaniel seems to have a shot to factor in the DT rotation. He saw reps with the second team and the first team subbing in for Eddie Goldman. He looks to be in great shape and Fisher was complimentary of what he saw from McDaniel following practice.

The one-on-one blocking drills were fun to watch. Some of the best matchups among the big guys were Josue Matias vs. Eddie Goldman and Timmy Jernigan vs. Tre' Jackson. No one dominated, just fun to see those pairs go at it.

-- The running backs and linebackers were lively in their matchups: With Mario Pender vs. Telvin Smith, both were really barking at each other. Devonta Freeman really handled Markuss Eligwe one time on the final block of the segment and that really got the RB's fired up. Abrams, Wilder and others all rotated against LB's. 

-- Kenny Shaw and Rashad Greene rotated reps at punt return during the punt team portion.

-- Looks like a change is coming to FSU's punt unit - they've been practicing the emerging "spread" punt formation with three players forming a wall about seven yards behind the line of scrimmage.

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