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Went to a game last night for this first time in a couple years... Wow, was I impressed. On a Tuesday night v a non marquee team I expected a half empty dead arena, I was way off. Place seemed to be 95+% full and tons of energy. They have also done a fantastic job with that arena with the huge replay screen, tesla coils, super friendly staff, and the big rooftop bar. I will absolutely be going to more games this year and I really don't care about hockey.

Seeing 19k there on a Tuesday night makes me believe that with a downtown Tampa stadium the Rays could easily get 25k/night on weekdays and 35k for weekend games. It seems like there is some headway being made on getting something in Tampa. At this point Bill Foster is the biggest obstacle as I think the other politicians in the area don't want to lose the Raysand are committed to keeping them here. 5 years from now I expect the Rays will either be in downtown Tampa or somewhere else outside of FL.
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I believe the game was sold out - as have been the other home games so far this season. 

I don't think I could possibly be more impressed with an owner than I am with Vinik.  He really seems like a good guy, and he hasn't consistently had his hand out asking for local government to do everything for him.  He's paid for all of the arena renovations himself; when he first announced the renovation plans a couple of years ago, he was asked point-blank if he'd be coming to the city/county to pay for them.  He responded something to the effect that if they can or will help pay - now or later - that would be great, but that he realized times were tight for local governments & that he fully expected to pay for the upgrades himself, figuring he'd recoup the investment by increased revenues at games, concerts, and events.

The rooftop bar is a really nice addition.  Can't believe it wasn't part of the original construction.
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It is funny. The Ice Palace/St Pete Times Forum is widely voted #1 or top 3 arena in the land and the Trop one of the/if not the worst. Although I like the Trop. I just wish it was in Tampa. I sure hope the Mayor of St.Pete drops this bs and lets the team move to Channelside in Tampa. If not, the Bay area will lose the Rays in the next 5 years imo. Bud Selig hates the Trop and the Tampa Bay area. He is always talking crap about how they cannot support a team. Miami would have been in trouble but they just built a new stadium. Although I bet the Rays have more fans for the year than Miami even playing in St Pete.


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Originally posted by NOLE FAN1:
It is funny. The Ice Palace/St Pete Times Forum is widely voted #1 or top 3 arena in the land and the Trop one of the/if not the worst. Although I like the Trop. I just wish it was in Tampa. I sure hope the Mayor of St.Pete drops this bs and lets the team move to Channelside in Tampa. If not, the Bay area will lose the Rays in the next 5 years imo. Bud Selig hates the Trop and the Tampa Bay area. He is always talking crap about how they cannot support a team. Miami would have been in trouble but they just built a new stadium. Although I bet the Rays have more fans for the year than Miami even playing in St Pete.


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He's not going to drop anything with the Rays and it will most likely cause the Rays to move to another state... No one wants them in that dump, Sternberg doesn't wanna be there the mayor won't get the hint!!! There was a good article in the Tampa Times about it all

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Originally posted by nolesfan73:




Originally posted by NOLE FAN1:
It is funny. The Ice Palace/St Pete Times Forum is widely voted #1 or top 3 arena in the land and the Trop one of the/if not the worst. Although I like the Trop. I just wish it was in Tampa. I sure hope the Mayor of St.Pete drops this bs and lets the team move to Channelside in Tampa. If not, the Bay area will lose the Rays in the next 5 years imo. Bud Selig hates the Trop and the Tampa Bay area. He is always talking crap about how they cannot support a team. Miami would have been in trouble but they just built a new stadium. Although I bet the Rays have more fans for the year than Miami even playing in St Pete.



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He's not going to drop anything with the Rays and it will most likely cause the Rays to move to another state... No one wants them in that dump, Sternberg doesn't wanna be there the mayor won't get the hint!!! There was a good article in the Tampa Times about it all

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I'm sure the Mayor of St Pete fully understands that Sternberg doesn't want to be in the Trop (or anywhere else in St Pete, for that matter); he surely also realizes that MLB would just as soon have the team move, too.

But he wasn't elected by Sternberg, nor MLB, nor the people of Tampa.  He's the mayor of St. Pete.  His fiduciary responsibilities are to do what is best for the City of St Pete and its' taxpayers.  Doing anything else would be a dereliction of his elected duty, which should get him removed from office immediately.

I don't like the fact that the area could end up losing the Rays, but I don't think the Mayor of St Pete should be blamed if it happens.
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Maybe they can work out a deal that when the team moves to Tampa, but they will Spring train in St Pete. That way they still have some economic impact there.
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The people in St. Pete arent supporting it.  They had their chance.  If we lose the Rays and I think we eventually will, St Pete will be too blame.
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I recall in the early yrs of the Lightning Phil Esposito saying Tuesday nights were the hardest night to get people to the games. So getting a near full house like that had to please ownership.
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Originally posted by Nolebra Kai:
The people in St. Pete arent supporting it.  They had their chance.  If we lose the Rays and I think we eventually will, St Pete will be too blame.
It's going to take some legal wrangling, but I doubt Bill Foster is going to be enough to push the Rays out of town. There really isn't a great market out there to leave to that would undoubtedly be better than TB.
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Originally posted by Nolebra Kai:
The people in St. Pete arent supporting it.  They had their chance.  If we lose the Rays and I think we eventually will, St Pete will be too blame.



Exactly the guys pride is getting in the way, just let them get out of the contract and let them move to where majority of the fans live and you'll prolly have more fans in the stadium and maybe more money would be able to be spent to get a high profile player

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Originally posted by SeaPA:  I'm sure the Mayor of St Pete fully understands that Sternberg doesn't want to be in the Trop (or anywhere else in St Pete, for that matter); he surely also realizes that MLB would just as soon have the team move, too.

But he wasn't elected by Sternberg, nor MLB, nor the people of Tampa.  He's the mayor of St. Pete.  His fiduciary responsibilities are to do what is best for the City of St Pete and its' taxpayers.  Doing anything else would be a dereliction of his elected duty, which should get him removed from office immediately.

I don't like the fact that the area could end up losing the Rays, but I don't think the Mayor of St Pete should be blamed if it happens.


THIS.

The mayor is no dummy.  He's looking at a stadium that is outdated and won't get ANY new tenants after the Rays leave.  And he has $80 MILLION in debt that was used to build it.  If the Rays leave, the city of St. Pete will be decimated.   The Rays are the only source of income that will be able to pay it back.  Or he could let them leave, get nothing in return, and then have to jack up taxes on his citizens to pay the debt back.  That would go over REAL well!

The Rays have only themselves to blame.  No one forced them to sign the lease.  No one forced them to allow the city to borrow the money to build the stadium for them.

If Tampa wants the Rays, all they have to do is write a check to St. Pete. 

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/14/sports/baseball/st-petersburg-clings-to-tampa-bay-rays-as-others-clamor-for-a-move.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
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They can make money off of that stadium by using it for bowl games or concerts and maybe spring training.
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Originally posted by NOLE FAN1:
They can make money off of that stadium by using it for bowl games or concerts and maybe spring training.



Have you ever seen an indoor spring training game?  And bowl games are a once-a-year deal.  They'd be better off bulldozing the building and re-building something on that lot at that point.
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Originally posted by NOLE FAN1:
They can make money off of that stadium by using it for bowl games or concerts and maybe spring training.


Uhhhhh, wut?

There is ONE bowl game, the St Pete Bowl played there.  It is a minor bowl, and there is not guarantee it will continue in the future.

Concerts????  I don't remember the last concert there.  Concerts are either at TBT Forum, the Amphitheater, or Ray Jay.

Spring training?!?!?!  Who in the WORLD would want to be inside in Florida in March for baseball?!?!?!  That is when our weather is AWESOME!  That is why people come here to visit, it is the reason the teams even come down here.


And not ONE of those would come close to servicing the debt.
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The Trop needs to go, period.  The Rays need to be in Tampa.  With the unwillingness of St Pete to work with the team based on current MLB conditions (every other team having an exponentially better stadium), the Rays will not be there long and my guess is they will have to pay some but not near what the city of St Pete wants to get out of the lease.  The stadium needs to be at Channelside and will draw a TON more people each night.  I live in Ocala and am a season ticket holder for the Ligthning.  I go to a couple of Rays games a year mainly because it is a pain to go all teh way to St. Pete.  I would go to at least a dozen if it were downtown.  Absolutely no reason not to be there.
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I have no issues with the Rays striking a deal with St. Pete to pay back the $80 million say over 10 years to move the team.

The Rays just need to get out of St Pete and if they do I hope it is in Tampa.
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Originally posted by Bill From Tampa:
I recall in the early yrs of the Lightning Phil Esposito saying Tuesday nights were the hardest night to get people to the games. So getting a near full house like that had to please ownership.



As a fan of another NHL team in a non-traditional market, it is encouraging to see the teams in these markets having success at the box office.  My team, Nashville Predators, played in front of their 16th consecutive sellout last night.  Good to see Tampa Bay and Carolina doing well from an attendance standpoint.  Hopefully Nashville can join Carolina and Tampa Bay in winning a Cup.
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