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Originally posted by BigHieb:
FSUJD,

Do you not recall what the last ESPN "lookin" got the league? A backloaded contract that required the ACC to give up essentially all of its inventory for minimal increase in revenue for an extended period of time. ESPN has zero incentive to significantly increase its payout to a conference it already possesses. It's not like FOX can swoop in during the lookin period and drive the ACC contract price higher. It's a closed negotiation.... One that ESPN holds all the power. The lookin is simply a method that the ACC can save face by saying "our new two homes games against ND annually can get us more money" and then sign a contract through 2030.

The lookin is a fraud. As long as FSU is in the ACC during the period of 2012 til probably at least 2022, we will be getting approximately $8mill less than the Big12 andPAC 12 and $10 to 15 million less annually than SEC and B1G. (including third tier rights) and no lookin clause is going to help that.


As noted by another poster when Syracuse and Pitt were added that was not a "look in".  That provision came in as part of the re-negotiation when Cuse and Pitt were added.  The ACC got an average of $4 million per team increase when those two were added.  No one right now can say what the look in will bring.  Part of that depends on the ACC's performance of course, including FSU's.  We do know a bump is coming with the ND add.

One reason I don't buy a lot of these projections that are thrown around is they don't all pan out.  Pac 12 is an example.  I read in a Bay area paper that the Pac payout on TV right now is about 15 million (theirs is backloaded too like everybody else) and their future projections may be a little rosey because it includes the Pac 12 Network that has yet to be picked up by Direct TV and some other major carriers.

Big 10 says Maryland will get 12 million more in 2014 than it would in the ACC.  This year the Big 10 paid 24 million per school (and that is with Nebraska not getting full share), ACC 17 million for 7 mil difference.  So in less than two years that is going to almost double with two (really three with Nebraska full share) more schools to pay?  We'll see.

SEC paid 20 million this year.  So they are 3 million ahead.  CBS isn't indicating they will give big bump, if any.  It remains to be seen what SEC actually gets so I don't take 10-15 million gap at face value.  Its 3 right now.  That is what we know.
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