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Originally posted by alwaysgr8fsu:

Da_Dynasty,

You speak like you know this as fact. Trickett probably is the leader right now (4 practices in), but I think Winston wins the job. We will beat Pitt with Winston or Clint starting. Following Pitt is a bye then some cupcakes. If Jimbo can't get Winston ready with Spring, Summer, Fall Camp, and 3-4 games of experience then Jimbo isn't the QB coach we all think he is. Clint has about 2-3 games of total playing experience. Lets not act like Clint is seasoned. The small advantage Clint has in experience should more then be made up with talent from Winston. Last year I saw many teams have better seasons then us all playing GREEN QB's i.e. Stanford, A&M, Oregon, ND, and UF. If Winston is the talent we think he is and Jimbo the coach we think Winston should be taking snaps opening game vs Pitt.
I never said Clint was seasoned when it comes to playing time. I said that he knows the playbook better than any QB simply because he's been in the system the longest. Just passing along what I've been told, it's Clint's to lose.

This post was edited on 3/28 8:47 AM by Da_Dynasty64

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Originally posted by kosmiknupe6:

Interesting that #5 rotated with CT in drills.  I think it's great to pair up the youngsters with players that have been in system longer.  Things that make you go hmmmmmm. Just thinking out loud.





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I don't know... I just wanted to say My brother and Cornell West in the same sentence.. LOL

#FREEWINSTON
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Are people really complaining about not seeing a write up on Mcguire?  It' really nice Jimbo says it's a 4 person race and it's nice to see the staff here say he can throw well, but come on.  We all know he is 4th on the depth chart by a mile.  If he plays we had significant injury or 3 of the biggest busts of all time.  Let's not get sidetracked and mad if we don't hear about his day.
3/28 8:48 AM | IP: Logged
Slide/spin to avoid the rush, laser arm, can execute the zone reads.... I like

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3/28 8:51 AM | IP: Logged
So the walk ons don't get their own paragraphs?  I am disappoint.
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Originally posted by ShadyNole13:
"While it's obvious he doesn't have the arm strength of the other three quarterbacks"

I am a little surprised to hear that.  IF you listen to some fans, they talk about how Trickett is a NFL type QB but just doesn't fit into our system.  I just hope one of the other 3 catches up on the gameplan and becomes more comfortable on the field so we have the best chance at a great season.  I take it from your write up that Coker could be falling a little behind right now due to the injury.  I hope he gets healthy fast because it sounds like he has the best overall tools to lead us to victory right now.  We really don't hear much about Maguire so I just assume he is fighting an uphill battle that he has basically no shot at winning.  
To be clear - it's not as if I'm saying he doesn't have the arm to win the job, etc. I'm just talking about the effort put behind a deep ball, simple as that. Seems like Maguire, Winston and Coker all can chuck it with a little less effort. 

Trickett is certainly capable.


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Originally posted by cbm0329:



Originally posted by nole300:
D.C when you say Casher and Newberry stood up, I assume that those were in 3-4 looks right?  If so, how was the right of the D-line lined up in those looks and what did you take from the amount of those looks that you saw and there effectiveness today.  tia



Doesn't have to be a 3-4.  You can have the DL drop into coverage from a 4-3.  That is most typically done when a LB or two is going to be blitzing, so you have a DL drop into coverage to cover the hole they are leaving by blitzing.  It could end up looking or acting like a 3-4, but the start of the play is a 4-3 look and the personnel is a 4-3.
Exactly. When I was watching, they'd bring the Sam down to the line of scrimmage, lined up tight on the outside shoulder of the DE. Still technically a 4-3 from what I saw.
3/28 8:57 AM | IP: Logged



Originally posted by Sluggersdad:
Interesting how FSU has four quarterbacks but the Warchant staff has already eliminated Maguire from competition.  How about some comments on what he did today.

This post was edited on 3/27 10:37 PM by Sluggersdad





Are you his father? I think that knowing who we have at the QB position eliminated him from starting. Nothing to talk issue with WC about. I am sure he is a good kid but imo he has no chance at starting.
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Originally posted by n0lesfan84:
So the walk ons don't get their own paragraphs?  I am disappoint.
I'm still waiting on my Justin Bright update, IT NEVER CAME!!!!!!!
3/28 9:01 AM | IP: Logged


Originally posted by semipohl:


Originally posted by n0lesfan84:
So the walk ons don't get their own paragraphs?  I am disappoint.
I'm still waiting on my Justin Bright update, IT NEVER CAME!!!!!!!

Yea, it will be called the 85 Scholarship Player Spring EXPLOSION of observations.
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Originally posted by Da_Dynasty64:




Originally posted by alwaysgr8fsu:

Da_Dynasty,

You speak like you know this as fact. Trickett probably is the leader right now (4 practices in), but I think Winston wins the job. We will beat Pitt with Winston or Clint starting. Following Pitt is a bye then some cupcakes. If Jimbo can't get Winston ready with Spring, Summer, Fall Camp, and 3-4 games of experience then Jimbo isn't the QB coach we all think he is. Clint has about 2-3 games of total playing experience. Lets not act like Clint is seasoned. The small advantage Clint has in experience should more then be made up with talent from Winston. Last year I saw many teams have better seasons then us all playing GREEN QB's i.e. Stanford, A&M, Oregon, ND, and UF. If Winston is the talent we think he is and Jimbo the coach we think Winston should be taking snaps opening game vs Pitt.


I never said Clint was seasoned when it comes to playing time. I said that he knows the playbook better than any QB simply because he's been in the system the longest. Just passing along what I've been told, it's Clint's to lose.

This post was edited on 3/28 8:47 AM by Da_Dynasty64




Dynasty has an in and he's shown that. I believe him but I believe him because it's the most logical. Jimbo has shown that he is willing to forego a starter (Weatherford) for a Younger prospect(Ponder) if he feels it's the best option.

I think that's why Jimbo will rotate them and keep them in the order of how they came in. Trickett 1st, Coker 2nd and Winston 3rd and rotate them so nobody can speculate every little decision he makes.

I would really like Winston to win the job and we have 2 or 3 years of JW leading the Noles back to the BCS Title game or at least in Constant Contention.

I think he just has the talent and charisma that other talent wants to play with. I think the players gravitate to him more out of any of the 4 QB's just on GP.

I think he's the type of QB that Oline will want to block for.


3/28 9:04 AM | IP: Logged
KMFS on punt returns? Hell to the MF yea!
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Originally posted by 71/BORASCH/06:
KMFS on punt returns? Hell to the MF yea!

Thank you for this.  
3/28 9:26 AM | IP: Logged

Originally posted by Da_Dynasty64:
It's obvious to anyone that knows Jimbo that the QB who is most comfortable running his offense will start. Like it or not, Trickett will start on the road vs Pitt. I'm not saying he finishes the season as the starter, however, it's his to lose regardless of what you hear in post practice interviews.

Just setting your expectations so when you hear coming out of spring and going into the Fall that Trickett is getting all the first team reps you don't have a melt down.
Based on what you are saying, then there is NO battle for the starting position, just the backup positions. I guess all of it is lip service.

I hate that. I wish it was a true competition.
3/28 9:36 AM | IP: Logged

The way i see it is that its an open competition, but the first game is basically too close to have an unknown product in.
3/28 9:40 AM | IP: Logged

I've felt it was going to be this way all along ... I mean, I can't forget the man's dad is on staff.  We'd all like to think that doesn't matter, but the coaches are just human.

I get worried that the transfer bug hits and one of the other three goes somewhere and wins the Heisman while we struggle with our division over the next two years.

Don't scalp me ... just my thoughts.  The Nole-on-Nole bash-fest in here is crazy sometimes.
3/28 9:48 AM | IP: Logged
This is a tough choice for FSU.

We have a guy that knows he offense and has game experience in Trickett...but we have two very talented player behind him. 

Does Fisher go with the 'Ponder' experience...bite the bullet and throw somebody out there to gain experience...or do we start Trickett...then go with him for two more seasons (junior & senior year)?
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I don't know exactly what Da Dynasty heard but if there's something to hear then that's troubling.  There shouldn't be any indication at this point of who the QB might be.  
3/28 9:58 AM | IP: Logged



Originally posted by dcreeves:





Originally posted by semipohl:





Originally posted by n0lesfan84:
So the walk ons don't get their own paragraphs?  I am disappoint.


I'm still waiting on my Justin Bright update, IT NEVER CAME!!!!!!!



Yea, it will be called the 85 Scholarship Player Spring EXPLOSION of observations.



Or 81.  But who's counting? 
3/28 10:03 AM | IP: Logged
I hope Trickett isn't the starter when the season starts. I'm sorry, but the kid brings no threat of the run to our offense and he has to get a runing start for the most part to throw the ball deep. I can't see Jameis or Coker sitting behind Trickett for two years. 
3/28 10:04 AM | IP: Logged
Question about Coker: When healthy, how is his arm strength compared to the other three?
3/28 10:09 AM | IP: Logged

Not saying what Dynasty is telling us not to be true. If Jimbo is smart (And I think he is) no way he starts Clinit because he has been in the system lonoger. If Jameis doesn't know the offense like Clint call plays that Jameis knows well and slowly work the other part of the offense in. Football isn't as multiple as Jimbo tries to make it. Oregon, A&M, Clemson and other spread teams use a simple concept and run different plays from the same looks. Winston would be a star in those systems. Not saying FSU run spread only but use more of that if it will win you ball games. It is alarming if talk behind the scenes is Clint will start Week 1 because he knows Jimbo's Multiple PB better. Lets for once try being less multiple and run the plays that work until the defense stops it. I am telling you right now if Clint wins the job only cause he knows more of the plays in jimb's PB Jameis will not miss baseball games next spring only to sit the bench again in football. A talent like Jameis would kill it if he played in those spread systems so why not use that skill set here? When FSU was at it's best we ran the spread with Charlie and Chris. Those teams both won titles and looked damn good doing it.
3/28 10:18 AM | IP: Logged



Originally posted by I-20 Nole:
I don't know exactly what Da Dynasty heard but if there's something to hear then that's troubling.  There shouldn't be any indication at this point of who the QB might be.  



Nobody is saying that.  Its just that Trickett is going to be VERY hard to beat out.  He is going to do everything right.  He is not going to make mistakes... the other guys will.  They other guys will really have to play well to beat him out especially for that first game.  My guess is though that once WInston gets on the field he will not be coming off.
3/28 10:19 AM | IP: Logged

So what you are saying is Winston has been named the starter?
3/28 10:23 AM | IP: Logged

Originally posted by Godzillaaa:

Originally posted by Da_Dynasty64:
It's obvious to anyone that knows Jimbo that the QB who is most comfortable running his offense will start. Like it or not, Trickett will start on the road vs Pitt. I'm not saying he finishes the season as the starter, however, it's his to lose regardless of what you hear in post practice interviews.

Just setting your expectations so when you hear coming out of spring and going into the Fall that Trickett is getting all the first team reps you don't have a melt down.
Based on what you are saying, then there is NO battle for the starting position, just the backup positions. I guess all of it is lip service.

I hate that. I wish it was a true competition.
That isn't exactly what I'm saying. As I passed along, it's Clint's to lose. If he goes out and just stinks the joint up then he won't start. As of right now that hasn't happened. There is a competition, but it's not a fierce battle like some are thinking. Coker isn't 100% so he isn't exactly battling for anything this spring. Sean will only start if the 3 QB's get hurt, so he isn't battling anything. Winston can take a big jump up on the depth chart from last year with a good spring, however, he will be right back to baseball afterwards while Trickett is out working  with WR's on timing and learning the playbook. I honestly believe if Winston will just focus on football and pass on Baseball he would be starting because he would have more time to work on the playbook and build timing with WR's.
3/28 10:28 AM | IP: Logged
Thanks, DC. Good stuff as usual.
I am interested in 72's questions about ST as well.
Thanks.
3/28 10:31 AM | IP: Logged

Not a parent or relative in the QB equation but darn sure want to add the WRs love Sean Maguire's arm and that's straight from a player! I don't think it's at all unreasonable to ask for a little more assessment time be offered to subscribers interested in knowing the "all 4 QB" updates. Not calling anybody out here because the reporting tidbits are terrific but just suggesting we get a broader paint stroke .
3/28 10:34 AM | IP: Logged

Originally posted by I-20 Nole:
I don't know exactly what Da Dynasty heard but if there's something to hear then that's troubling.  There shouldn't be any indication at this point of who the QB might be.  
When your starting QB moves on, the 2nd string QB is the one that typically gets the first nod 99.9% of the time. This is not a case where you have all on freshman coming in and you have no idea who is going to start, so I don't understand your comment about there shouldn't be any indication at this point. The indication is who gets the first shot running with the 1's, Clint does. That's all the indication you need.
3/28 10:35 AM | IP: Logged



Originally posted by alwaysgr8fsu:

Da_Dynasty,

You speak like you know this as fact. Trickett probably is the leader right now (4 practices in), but I think Winston wins the job. We will beat Pitt with Winston or Clint starting. Following Pitt is a bye then some cupcakes. If Jimbo can't get Winston ready with Spring, Summer, Fall Camp, and 3-4 games of experience then Jimbo isn't the QB coach we all think he is. Clint has about 2-3 games of total playing experience. Lets not act like Clint is seasoned. The small advantage Clint has in experience should more then be made up with talent from Winston. Last year I saw many teams have better seasons then us all playing GREEN QB's i.e. Stanford, A&M, Oregon, ND, and UF. If Winston is the talent we think he is and Jimbo the coach we think Winston should be taking snaps opening game vs Pitt.



I think you are right on target.  We should beat Pitt pretty soundly with our Defense alone.  Get Winston thru spring, summer, and fall. like you said you get 3 or 4 warm up games before we enter our real schedule.  The coaches should be able to put him in a poistion to win games and then we get hopefully 3 years of a starting QB.  Why would you play Tricket or Coker one year, and then have Winston come in the following.  Get #5 the experience and let aim for NCG next year.
3/28 10:39 AM | IP: Logged
I want Winston or Coker to start but I think it's very obvious Trickett will start game one.

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3/28 10:41 AM | IP: Logged

Originally posted by stokes0667:
Why would you play Tricket or Coker one year, and then have Winston come in the following.  Get #5 the experience and let aim for NCG next year.
Clint was part of the 2010 class and took a redshirt. Coker was part of the 2011 class so both have more than one year left. With the talent we have on defense, and at WR and RB we don't need a QB to go out and try to win us games. We just need a QB who knows the assignments, knows where the ball is supposed to go and get it there. Do I think Winston can do all of that, I do, but we shouldn't just let him play just to get experience. He should only play if he wins the job.


This post was edited on 3/28 10:48 AM by Da_Dynasty64

3/28 10:43 AM | IP: Logged
Wait..  did I just see some UK fan posting a link to his real estate website?  What a sad attempt at forging a career..  Thought it was just chinese dudes trying to sell sun glasses on the main board.
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Originally posted by hunter73:

 Winston showed a big arm and escapability in offense-vs-defense work. On one play in particular ? Winston felt the big rush from his right, then moved left and stepped up into a deep throw, hitting Rashad Greene in stride. He had a couple of other plays where he avoided the rush, turned on the jets and made a positive play out of it. On offense vs. defense Winston faced mostly third-team defenders with a few starters peppered in. Winston did get a chance to work with the first team offensive line in o-vs-d drills. He made some great throws on Wednesday.


No way in the world Jimbo keeps that on the bench. Dont get where he is by letting the real talent ride the pine.



Hunter, I have said that if FSU loses 2 or more games, I would not be surprised to see Winston start before then end of the season. If we "win it all" I expect that Trickett will prove an effective "leader", which is why I like him. He was a leader in hs, and seems to have the best grasp of Jimbos offense. If Jimbo has a flaw, it is being impatient with learning. He wants everyone to know everything and perform without error on every. That is not a bad goal, but the reality is that mistakes are made on every play, even those that score TD's.
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Originally posted by Da_Dynasty64:
It's obvious to anyone that knows Jimbo that the QB who is most comfortable running his offense will start. Like it or not, Trickett will start on the road vs Pitt. I'm not saying he finishes the season as the starter, however, it's his to lose regardless of what you hear in post practice interviews.

Just setting your expectations so when you hear coming out of spring and going into the Fall that Trickett is getting all the first team reps you don't have a melt down.



Trickett is the #1 guy going into spring but I do not think he is the starter at Pitt.  I think Weatherford was more comfortable running the offense than Ponder but Ponder got the start.  
3/28 11:27 AM | IP: Logged

Originally posted by Da_Dynasty64:

Originally posted by I-20 Nole:
I don't know exactly what Da Dynasty heard but if there's something to hear then that's troubling.  There shouldn't be any indication at this point of who the QB might be.  
When your starting QB moves on, the 2nd string QB is the one that typically gets the first nod 99.9% of the time. This is not a case where you have all on freshman coming in and you have no idea who is going to start, so I don't understand your comment about there shouldn't be any indication at this point. The indication is who gets the first shot running with the 1's, Clint does. That's all the indication you need.
Oh I agree and I think Trickett will start.  Just thought you were saying somebody from the inside had told you "it's Trickett's to lose" and that sounds predetermined to me.  The job should be won, not lost IMO.  I'm worried that Trickett already has the job and won't lose it unless he plays absolutely horrible, which probably means losing a game.
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Originally posted by hunter73:

 Winston showed a big arm and escapability in offense-vs-defense work. On one play in particular ? Winston felt the big rush from his right, then moved left and stepped up into a deep throw, hitting Rashad Greene in stride. He had a couple of other plays where he avoided the rush, turned on the jets and made a positive play out of it. On offense vs. defense Winston faced mostly third-team defenders with a few starters peppered in. Winston did get a chance to work with the first team offensive line in o-vs-d drills. He made some great throws on Wednesday.


No way in the world Jimbo keeps that on the bench. Dont get where he is by letting the real talent ride the pine.


Jimbo will play the best QB not the best talent.  Might be Winston but could just as easily be Coker, Trickett or the long shot Maguire.  Keep in mind ever who is selected will be picked by someone who knows a hell of a lot more about QBs that either you, me or anyone else on Warchant.
3/28 11:44 AM | IP: Logged



Originally posted by dreatodd:

So what you are saying is Winston has been named the starter?



 
3/28 11:48 AM | IP: Logged

Originally posted by hunter73:

 Winston showed a big arm and escapability in offense-vs-defense work. On one play in particular ? Winston felt the big rush from his right, then moved left and stepped up into a deep throw, hitting Rashad Greene in stride. He had a couple of other plays where he avoided the rush, turned on the jets and made a positive play out of it. On offense vs. defense Winston faced mostly third-team defenders with a few starters peppered in. Winston did get a chance to work with the first team offensive line in o-vs-d drills. He made some great throws on Wednesday.


No way in the world Jimbo keeps that on the bench. Dont get where he is by letting the real talent ride the pine.
I've never seen a QB wearing a Non Contract Jersey NOT have escapablity. They all do with that blue shirt on.
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Originally posted by PANole1:
Slide/spin to avoid the rush, laser arm, can execute the zone reads.... I like

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Settle down, you must have missed the part he went against 3rd string defense.

He will get plenty of chances to win it, yesterday wasn't it.

Positive news, yes, but temper the exuberance. LOL
3/28 11:56 AM | IP: Logged

Originally posted by atgreek:


Originally posted by PANole1:
Slide/spin to avoid the rush, laser arm, can execute the zone reads.... I like

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Settle down, you must have missed the part he went against 3rd string defense.

He will get plenty of chances to win it, yesterday wasn't it.

Positive news, yes, but temper the exuberance. LOL

And as I mentioned above, the part where he is wearing a non contract jersey. I'm great at avoiding the rush when I know that no one can hit me.
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Originally posted by Da_Dynasty64:

Originally posted by Godzillaaa:

Originally posted by Da_Dynasty64:
It's obvious to anyone that knows Jimbo that the QB who is most comfortable running his offense will start. Like it or not, Trickett will start on the road vs Pitt. I'm not saying he finishes the season as the starter, however, it's his to lose regardless of what you hear in post practice interviews.

Just setting your expectations so when you hear coming out of spring and going into the Fall that Trickett is getting all the first team reps you don't have a melt down.
Based on what you are saying, then there is NO battle for the starting position, just the backup positions. I guess all of it is lip service.

I hate that. I wish it was a true competition.
That isn't exactly what I'm saying. As I passed along, it's Clint's to lose. If he goes out and just stinks the joint up then he won't start. As of right now that hasn't happened. There is a competition, but it's not a fierce battle like some are thinking. Coker isn't 100% so he isn't exactly battling for anything this spring. Sean will only start if the 3 QB's get hurt, so he isn't battling anything. Winston can take a big jump up on the depth chart from last year with a good spring, however, he will be right back to baseball afterwards while Trickett is out working  with WR's on timing and learning the playbook. I honestly believe if Winston will just focus on football and pass on Baseball he would be starting because he would have more time to work on the playbook and build timing with WR's.
Winston has all summer and Fall to get his timing with the WRs.  So if he does that this summer will he be the starter?  
3/28 12:35 PM | IP: Logged


Originally posted by Da_Dynasty64:

Originally posted by Godzillaaa:

Originally posted by Da_Dynasty64:
It's obvious to anyone that knows Jimbo that the QB who is most comfortable running his offense will start. Like it or not, Trickett will start on the road vs Pitt. I'm not saying he finishes the season as the starter, however, it's his to lose regardless of what you hear in post practice interviews.

Just setting your expectations so when you hear coming out of spring and going into the Fall that Trickett is getting all the first team reps you don't have a melt down.
Based on what you are saying, then there is NO battle for the starting position, just the backup positions. I guess all of it is lip service.

I hate that. I wish it was a true competition.
That isn't exactly what I'm saying. As I passed along, it's Clint's to lose. If he goes out and just stinks the joint up then he won't start. As of right now that hasn't happened. There is a competition, but it's not a fierce battle like some are thinking. Coker isn't 100% so he isn't exactly battling for anything this spring. Sean will only start if the 3 QB's get hurt, so he isn't battling anything. Winston can take a big jump up on the depth chart from last year with a good spring, however, he will be right back to baseball afterwards while Trickett is out working  with WR's on timing and learning the playbook. I honestly believe if Winston will just focus on football and pass on Baseball he would be starting because he would have more time to work on the playbook and build timing with WR's.
Winston has all summer and Fall to get his timing with the WRs.  So if he does that this summer will he be the starter?  
3/28 12:39 PM | IP: Logged

Good report. Thank you, sir!
3/28 12:50 PM | IP: Logged
Oh my gosh people! We're only like 3-4 days into Spring ball and you want updates for every living body on the field and a minute by minute who's-in-the-lead QB depth chart update. Everybody relax.As much as we would all like to see that star recruit explode onto the scene and lead us to the NC, this will not be a one bad day and he gets demoted thing. They most likely won't even change the depth chart until after the Spring game.

DC, you are the man! Thanks so much for all the incredible updates!

It's all we can ask for......if you don't agree, go see the practices yourself.
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Good report, DC.  Some of you will complain about anything.

As for the QB battle, Jimbo will start the guy each week that he thinks gives FSU the best chance to win that week.  That will be his philosophy in week 1 and in week 14.  That will be his philosophy this year and each year hereafter.  Deal with it.
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Fantastic practice report.  Thanks!  (no complaints here).
3/28 1:24 PM | IP: Logged
Dc. Thanks for all the insight. Man im getting excited. My question is simple if you don't mind answering it. Who do you think looked the best out of the QB's? Reading between the lines it sounded like Winston. And who do you think will be the starter this year? Thanks in advance man.
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Marvin Bracy is at Texas Relays this week. One of biggest track meets in the country
3/28 2:03 PM | IP: Logged

IMO Trickett is the man to beat this year...and I love that the competition will improve everyone's game. 
3/28 2:45 PM | IP: Logged

Maybe its better for this offense that Winston doesn't know the entire playbook.  IMO Jimbo's playbook is TOO big, many times last season I wondered what our identity was -we were either running a power I, option, spread, zone read.  Hopefully JW's talent is too much for Jimbo to keep on the bench and Jimbo matches his gameplanning with what JW does well.  So what if CT knows the entire playbook, EJ knew the playbook inside and out last year and I was unimpressed with his overall performance. 
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